Gentlemen, You May Smoke

Take Lincoln and Wilberforce off the list and I’d be tempted to sign this Declaration of Independence.

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8 Comments

  1. Posted May 25, 2009 at 9:38 am | Permalink

    Can we also leave out the implied interventionist foreign policy of “fighting terrorism throughout the world” !? Ugh. And why the love of artificial hydrogenation of vegetable oils (transfat)?

  2. dgh
    Posted May 26, 2009 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    I believe that Oreos are better with transfat.

  3. Posted June 4, 2009 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    Can’t defeat the argumentum Oreoyum. But I would have assumed you were a pro-home baked cookie sort of guy.

    Anyway, if the terrorists had transfatty Oreos, there would be peace.

  4. Rick
    Posted June 8, 2009 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    Please help. I understand the disaffection for Mr. Lincoln, but Wilberforce? Why? I plead my ignorance and beg your indulgence.

  5. dgh
    Posted June 8, 2009 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Because he didn’t put union with Christ as the beginning of the ordo?

    Or maybe because he was an egalitarian (which is synonymous with being evangelical).

  6. Robert Widdowson
    Posted July 1, 2009 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    This is new to me.

    You may have to speak slowly and use monosyllabic words in deference to my inability to grasp the subtlties of your position:

    (1) Union with Christ as the beginning of the ordo. Would you be able to refer me to a explanation of the ordo you have in mind? What do you think of Helm’s book, ‘The Beginnings’ published by Banner of Truth? Bavinck? Turretin?

    (2) Of Wilberforce, you stated ‘he was egalitarian (which is synonymous with being evangelical)’–what does this mean? I’m fairly new to Reformed theology and am extricating myself from the grips of evangelicalism. You’re suggesting it’s egalitarian?

    BTW, I am reading ‘With Awe and Wonder’ and Matthison’s ‘Given for You’–what do you think of Dr. Matthison’s book?

  7. Matthew Leroe
    Posted February 22, 2010 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    Wilberforce did a great work. Whereas we had a Civil War, England changed the state of slavery without violence. Can we really rise above him by having our ducks slightly more in a row?

  8. dgh
    Posted February 23, 2010 at 3:50 am | Permalink

    Matthew, it’s been so long since I wrote this that it feels like Wilberforce must have been alive for the original post. But I guess better late than never.

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