Does Christianity involve a conviction about roads and their construction? To hear some critics of 2k, the problem with distinguishing between a spiritual and an earthly kingdom is that it creates a vacuum of neutrality. Something is either sacred/religious or secular/non-religious. By granting a sphere that is not religious is to create a bogey that leaves neo-Calvinists, pietists, and theonomists spooked. Dualism (boo!) is scary enough. But to think of a sphere of human existence that doesn’t have religious meaning! It’s worse than making an appointment with the dentist.
This is why road construction – or at least choosing the surface of roads – is an interesting test case for the 2k critic. If nothing is neutral, if every square inch is Christ’s, if the Bible speaks to all of life, what is God’s will for road surfaces? Should a Christian always use macadam? Or is concrete okay? And if concrete is God’s will, should Christians and their congregations picket alongside roads that are being paved with macadam? Again, the basic premise of the anti-2k critique is that nothing is neutral and everything is religious. So do anti-2kers really want to hang the plausibility of their theory on a matter like road surfaces?
Most 2k critics never really consider road construction. They have their sights set on bigger targets. Politics, economics, art, medicine – those are outlets fitting for a healthy and vigorous worldview. And to suggest that Christianity doesn’t have the answers to these areas of human endeavor is to commit worldview antinomianism. Rabbi Bret is again useful for illustrating the point:
Dr. Darryl’s problem is that he honestly believes that Christianity, as promulgated in the Church, neither asks nor answers the question, “How shall than we live.†Dr. Darryl’s worldview believes that all attempts by the Church to speak God’s mind on this question for the public square is sinful. The consequence of Dr. Darryl’s worldview is that the Gospel’s impact in saving individual lives reaches no further than those individual personal lives. For Dr. Darryl, a medical doctor is saved by the Gospel but after being saved by the Gospel, Christianity, as promulgated by the church, has no word for the medical doctor on how he should speak about medical ethics. For Dr. Darryl, a public square Economist is saved by the Gospel but after being saved by the Gospel, Christianity, as promulgated by the church, has no word for the Economist on whether Keynesianism is consistent with the 7th commandment. For Dr. Darryl, a civil magistrate is saved by the Gospel but after being saved by the Gospel, Christianity, as promulgated by the church, has no answer for the civil magistrate on whether political or cultural Marxism is consistent with the 1st commandment. For Dr. Darryl the third use of the law, as it pertains to the public square, completely disappears. For Dr. Darryl God speaks clearly on how individuals get saved but God speaks only a incredibly contested word (i.e. – Darryl’s appeal to Natural Law) on how Christians as Christians should live.
Dr. Darryl has not escaped the fact that his worldview for the public square antinomianism that he would have the Church embrace, if pursued for the wrong reasons, is as much a form of works righteousness as is adopting a mandate on global warming or as adopting legislation that is pro-life.
So I’ll take Bret’s challenge and raise him one. Is road paving part of a Christian worldview? If not, then isn’t every 2k critic guilty of worldview antinomianism when it comes to paving streets? Doesn’t some level of reality exist that cannot be claimed as black or white, God’s kingdom or Satan’s? And if that’s the case, then why give 2kers such a hard time for worldview antinomianism when every Christian practices it at some level?
Now, the critics of 2k may be willing to concede this point but then counter that some areas of human endeavor still require a Christian worldview – especially those important arenas like public life. Here the logic seems to be that the important stuff needs a worldview of equal importance. We may be indifferent to the little things in life – though agrarians are rarely willing to concede that the things industrialists consider little really are – but we need Christianity to speak to the important matters.
What anti-2kers cannot seem to grasp is that as much as they would like Christianity to speak to all the important stuff, the Bible does not. Here it is useful to keep in mind Charles Hodge’s reasoning at the time when the Old School Presbyterian Church was being asked to support the Federal government in the emerging struggle between North and South — a time in the life of the U.S. that was a big deal. Hodge was a Republican. Hodge voted for Lincoln. Hodge wept when Lincoln was assassinated. Hodge believed in maintaining the union. He even called secession “a ruinous political heresy.†And yet, Hodge could find no reason for the church to remain anything but neutral on the political question of 1861. He wrote:
The church can only exercise her power in enforcing the word of God, in approving what it commands, and condemning what it forbids. A man, in the exercise of his liberty as to things indifferent, may be justly amenable to the laws of the land; and he may incur great guilt in the sight of God, but he cannot be brought under the censure of the church.
Eating meat sacrificed to idols was, the apostle tells us, a matter of indifference. To eat it, however, under the circumstances in which the Corinthians were placed, was a sin not only against their brethren, but against Christ. He [Paul] however expressly forbids the church interfering in the matter. To his own Master, in such cases, a man must stand or fall. Drinking wine, under some circumstances, may be a great sin, but it can never be made a ground of censure at the bar of the church. In like manner, an adherent of the Stuarts may have committed a great sin in refusing allegiance to the house of Hanover, and be justly punished by the state; but he could not be justly censured by the church. . . .
The government of South Carolina is in conflict with the government of the United States; and the Assembly decided that Presbyterians in that State, and everywhere else in this country, are under obligations to strengthen, support, and encourage the Federal Government. If the public mind were not so excited, and, therefore, prone to misapprehension and injustice, it would not be necessary for us to say again that we agree with this decision of the Assembly; we only deny their right to make it. We fully believe that the allegiance of the American citizen is to the Union, . . . . but we have no right to call upon the Assembly to adopt our interpretation of the Constitution, nor to make that interpretation the ground of its official action. (“State of the Country,†1861)
So to make it clear, Hodge does not believe the Bible lays down a Christian position on a momentous matter such as the unity of a federal republic. He also believes that Christians have liberty to be on both sides of the issue, as long as they recognize and accept the civil penalties that may come with their position. But to condemn other Christians for their political convictions, when the Bible does not reveal a Christian position, is to bind their consciences illegitimately.
Of course, many 2k critics suffer from a depleted view of the church and are not clamoring for church censures against 2k indifference to the nickels and dimes of cultural and political life that need to be redeemed. But they do act as if such indifference is sin, when in fact they are doing exactly what fundamentalists do – claiming something to be divinely revealed as good or evil that Scripture itself does not reveal. In other words, the critics of 2k high-brow pietists – for them, everything is either holy or worldly; nothing exists in between.
So if worldview antinomianism is the charge, then let’s see the worldviewers swallow some macadam. Though it seems like an amazingly minor matter on which to hang an all encompassing world view.
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Eliza, thanks for the link:
Frame says: “I am convinced that there is such a thing as natural law. But I am not at all convinced of Van Drunen’s [sic] (or anyone else’s) distinction between religious and secular kingdoms, and I do not see any reason to limit the use of Scripture to the religious kingdom as Van Drunen [sic] suggests. Scripture is God’s word, and God’s word is the foundation of morality. When we want to draw people, believers or unbelievers, to that foundation, we should be unashamed to refer to Scripture. I grant that there are many cultural forces telling us not to refer to Scripture in the public square. But we should not listen to them. The attempt of Van Drunen [sic] and others to convince us not to apply Scripture to civil matters is a failure.”
But Calvin says:
“Therefore, to perceive more clearly how far the mind can proceed in any matter according to the degree of its ability, we must here set forth a distinction: that there is one kind of understanding of earthly things; another of heavenly. I call “earthly things†those which do not pertain to God or his Kingdom, to true justice, or to the blessedness of the future life; but which have their significance and relationship with regard to the present life and are, in a sense, confined within its bounds. I call “heavenly things†the pure knowledge of God, the nature of true righteousness, and the mysteries of the Heavenly Kingdom. The first class includes government, household management, all mechanical skills, and the liberal arts. In the second are the knowledge of God and of his will, and the rule by which we conform our lives to it.
“Of the first class the following ought to be said: since man is by nature a social animal, he tends through natural instinct to foster and preserve society. Consequently, we observe that there exist in all men’s minds universal impressions of a certain civic fair dealing and order. Hence no man is to be found who does not understand that every sort of human organization must be regulated by laws, and who does not comprehend the principles of those laws. Hence arises the unvarying consent of all nations and of individual morals with regard to laws. For their seeds have, without teacher or lawgiver, been implanted in all men.”
Funny that Frame’s take on NL is the same as his take on the RPW — as you say, “bad.”
Everett,
Thanks for your comments. I will print that out and ponder it I assure you.
We homeschool our 4 children, wouldn’t do anything else. I wasn’t even thinking in terms of schooling per se……I was thinking more along the lines of what they’ve done with economics, politics, and where I get real upset….historical interpretation.
Great stuff here. Thanks.
John A.
And thank you Zrim for those comments. I’m going to ponder all that a bit ….
I’ve been given something to think about…..I hope I’ve done the same for someone else.
It’s good when web-threads are profitable. It doesn’t always happen that way.
John A.
Calvin’s Institutes, 2. 8.l
“The Lord has offered us his written law to convey more certain testimony of that which is too obscure in the natural law”
My point is: if natural law is so obvious, so clear, so, well, natural, then why don’t appeals to it yield fruit? Why don’t people get on board with banning abortion if they naturally understand that it’s wrong? But I agree with Frame that everyone, sinner and saint, is under obligation to keep the moral law.
My point is: if natural law is so obvious, so clear, so, well, natural, then why don’t appeals to it yield fruit? Why don’t people get on board with banning abortion if they naturally understand that it’s wrong?
This is always curious reasoning: natural law is dubious because people don’t do it right, which is like saying a rule is dubious because it gets broken. So what? I’m not about to stop telling my daughter not to smart mouth her mother just because she keeps doing it (and simply telling her the Bible backs me up isn’t a magic bullet against her sin). But like Paul says, it’s not the law’s fault that things go badly, it’s that its application depends on sinners.
And if it’s the political question of abortion you want to use as an example, I could just as easily complain that few get on board with states’ rights instead of federal banning (or legalizing), therefore NL seems dubious. I mean, isn’t local control oh so obvious to everyone? But too bad for me there’s nothing in the Bible about local control like there is children obeying their parents.
RL, DGH, Zrim,
Sorry for the dalayed response, I have been on the road. You all bring up some pretty valid points, and I’ll try to repond as best as I can here:
RL: The OT context for the acquisition of war-spoil slaves was theocratic Israel, not 18th & 19th century colonialism, or intra-tribal warfare amongst Africans. Israel’s wars could rightly be construed as holy war, colonialism and tribal warfare would have a hard time meeting the criteria of Augustine’s notions of just war. I am not sure how solid an affirmitive argument to the legitimacy of these slaves could be. So, even if I conceded that criminal slaves were legitimate, you still have to account for a large portion of slaves that were questionably acquired.
I do understand that it would have been exceedingly difficult for the Southern Presbyterians to bring the issue of slavery before their church courts given the cultural moorings of the time. The fact that they did not was in my opinion a deep failure and should be honestly conceded as such. The Southern Presbyterian approval of slavery allowed her members to be unlawfully enriched from improperly acquired labor, and the human end of this equation did damage their witness into the world at large.
Dr. Hart – I am certainly not arguing for the legitimace of slavery in the modern context. However, there does seem to be a few scenarios where slavery was acceptable even in the bible. In the case of Onesimus, since Paul sought his release through legal means I would assume that he was acquired legally. Of course that’s simply assumed from the silence of the text so I won’t push it far. I wasn’t framing my point with the assumption that all slavery is wicked, because I believe it can in some cases (such as bankrupcy slavery) be construred as legitimate. The morality of slavery in the south may have been an important socieatal issue, however in the Church I think that the legality of it all should have come into play. These slaves were viewed as property, and as such I think that the Law speaks to property inasmuch as it ought to be properly acquired (8th Command). If you had a member of your church who refused to pay his taxes but had all kinds of biblical arguments to support his claims, wouldn’t you still bring him before the courts? Whatever the arguments for slavery, and no matter where the arguments were derived scripturally, I am not so sure that the church dealt with the implication that the slaves were more likely than not stolen and/or illegitimately acquired property. This was in my opinion, cultural complexities notwithstanding, a real failure of our southern brothers, and I see no problem of owning this.
Zrim – I know that the slavery issue, along with those pesky Nazi’s are most commonly used as the other sides “yeah but….”. The problem is that they don’t concede the complexity of living through these kinds of issues, alongside the fact that their biblical argumentation is wanting as well. My only issue is that sometimes we 2k-ers in our efforts to highlight the complexity of the issues fall short of simply giving a better take on the matter since we do have the privelege of historical perspective. The Nazi’s were wrong to kill Jews, and inasmuch as supporting the Nazi’s meant supporting the extermination of Jews, German Christians were wrong to support this. America was wrong to give legal support to slavery, especially if the acquisition of these slaves were truly called into question; christian’s who supported this were wrong. I have no problem saying this, with the understanding that I may have just as easily been guilty if I were in their situation. As an advocates for SOTC, I do think that cultural sins need to be dealt with like any other sin within the church – firmly and gracefully. How the state deals with these issues is another matter, and under the jurisdiction of a different kingdom.
My only issue is that sometimes we 2k-ers in our efforts to highlight the complexity of the issues fall short of simply giving a better take on the matter since we do have the privelege of historical perspective.
Again, Jed, I appreciate your points, but I can’t help but wonder if there still resides in your comment the sort of modern assumption I mean to question, namely “the privilege of historical perspective.” I think if we’re being honest, the reason we don’t traffic in slavery any longer has more to do with the fact that it’s just not a facet of modern society, not because we moderns have figured out the superior cultural morality. I know we like to tell ourselves it’s the latter through the doctrine of “historical perspective,” but given that there are plenty of cultural realities in 2010 America that could be equally construed as immoral, at the very least the credibility of the modern to pass judgment on the past is diminished.
The Nazi’s were wrong to kill Jews, and inasmuch as supporting the Nazi’s meant supporting the extermination of Jews, German Christians were wrong to support this.
Well, Americans killed Vietnamese and Iraqi civilians. Does this mean my alligiance to the flag and the paying of taxes, etc. translates into murder? I’m sorry, but this sounds very close to the 1K argument that to submit to Hitler was the same as killing Jews. I know you qualify it with “inasmuch as,” but I have a hard time seeing what that means exactly. Does it mean waving the German flag during war time like my wife puts out the American flag during war time? Is she guilty of killing Iraqi civilians?
I am just as much a 2010 American Yank as I think you are. But what I am trying to do, Jed, is suggest that we take a little more objective look at our shared 2010 American cultural values. My inner American wants to say that the guy waving the German Worker’s Union flag and standing up as Hitler drives by is just as guilty as Mengele. But then I don’t know what stops me from saying my wife is an Iraqi baby killer when she puts out the stars and stripes and stands up at the Fourth of July parade as Vietnam vets pass.
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