Giving New Meaning to Lutheran-Roman Catholic Dialogue

From Nadia Bolz-Weber’s comments on NPR’s On Being:

I loved the emphasis on grace, the fact that God always is coming to us. There’s nothing we do to make our way to God. God is continually coming to us and interrupting our lives and wanting to be known. And I had experienced that to be true. And I was so grateful when I stumbled into a place where I didn’t have to like remove half my brain in order to believe the things that they were telling me to believe. And it just felt true to me already. . . .

I think a lot of people, when there’s suffering, when there’s tragedy, they say, well, where is God in the midst of this? Most of God is unknowable, and we should probably be grateful for that — it’s in that like I want to know, right? . . .

You know what the final judgment is to me? It’s God dying on the cross and saying: forgive them; they know not what they’re doing. That’s an eternally valid statement to me. That is God’s judgment upon us. And so, to me, if God could bear that kind of suffering and only respond in forgiveness and love, that’s the God who is present in a devastating hurricane, in that room with an abused child. So to me, God has come into the world and is bearing that, not causing it.

From a recent news story of Pope Francis:

The reason for our hope, he said, is this: “God is with us, and God still trusts us! But think about this: God is with us and God still trusts in us! But God the Father is generous eh? God comes to dwell with men, choosing the Earth as his home to be with man himself and so He can be found there where man spends his days in joy or in pain. Therefore, earth is no longer just a ‘valley of tears’, but is the place where God himself has pitched His tent, it is the meeting place between God and men, of solidarity between God and men.”

“God wanted to share our human condition to the point of becoming one with us in the person of Jesus, who is true God and true man But there is something even more amazing.” God “pitched his tent” not in an ideal world, but “in this real world, marked by many good and bad things, marked by divisions, evil, poverty, oppression and war.” He “chos[e] to live our story as it is, with all the weight of its limitations and its dramas. In doing so, he demonstrated in an unsurpassable way, his merciful inclination, full of love for humans.”

“He is God-with-us: do you believe this?” the Pope asked the crowd, to which they responded “Yes!” “But,” the Holy Father continued, “let us make this confession: Jesus is God-with-us! All together: Jesus is God-with-us!” Francis thanked faithful for their enthusiastic response.” “Jesus is God-with-us, always and forever with us in the sufferings and sorrows of history. Christ’s birth is the manifestation that God is once and for all, on mankind’s side, to save, to raise us up again from the dust of our miseries, our difficulties, our sins.”

“This is where the great gift of the Child of Bethlehem comes: He brings us spiritual energy, an energy that helps us not to drown in our labours, our despair, our sadness, because it is an energy that warms and transforms the heart. The birth of Jesus, in fact, brings us the good news that we are loved immensely and individually by God, and not only does He bring us this love, He gifts it to us, He communicates it!”

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7 Comments

  1. Posted December 23, 2013 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    Papa Francis – God is with us, and God still trusts us!

    Erik – Hopefully it’s trust, but verify.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIgskDFN-xc

  2. Andrew
    Posted December 23, 2013 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    EC, you don’t miss a beat..

  3. Posted December 23, 2013 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Just what I need: “spiritual energy…an energy that warms and transforms the heart.” Sad when the lib Lutheran babe gets closer to the gospel than the pontiff of Rome.

  4. Posted December 23, 2013 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    “He is God-with-us: do you believe this?” the Pope asked the crowd, to which they responded “Yes!” “But,” the Holy Father continued, “let us make this confession: Jesus is God-with-us! All together: Jesus is God-with-us!”

    This guy would be great at a youth rally. Needs a makeover, though.

  5. Posted December 23, 2013 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

    The “lib Lutheran babe” has a problem with God, though (I have heard and read her sermons)…she doesn’t think much of His law. She has better, more generous words than God does on that score.

    And she doesn’t think that God allows hurricanes to slam into wherever?

    She spends too much time defending God from God.

    This Lutheran wouldn’t walk around the bloc to hear her preach.

  6. Posted December 23, 2013 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    Pope Francis did a youth rally already, and even threw in an indulgence for those who participated, even online. You can’t get much hipper than that.

    Makes Protestant ministers in skinny-jeans look pretty old fashioned.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PQCvsW45g0

  7. matt
    Posted December 26, 2013 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    And she doesn’t think that God allows hurricanes to slam into wherever?
    This is because she doesn’t ( like other libs ) believe God has wrath.

    She spends too much time defending God from God.
    True.

    This Lutheran wouldn’t walk around the bloc to hear her preach.
    Nor would any other (proper) Lutheran.

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