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		<title>He Was a Coach, Not God</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Angelo Cataldi]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe Paterno was three years younger than my father and JoePa outlived dad by almost two years. I admired both men greatly, partly because of their decency which may have been responsible for their moral naivete. Recently Angelo Cataldi became indignant over Paterno&#8217;s remarks to the Washington Post that even if the report to him… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/01/he-was-a-coach-not-god/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Paterno was three years younger than my father and JoePa outlived dad by almost two years.  I admired both men greatly, partly because of their decency which may have been responsible for their moral naivete.  Recently Angelo Cataldi became indignant over Paterno&#8217;s remarks to the Washington Post that even if the report to him about Jerry Sandusky&#8217;s antics in the shower were more specific, the head coach wasn&#8217;t sure what he would have done because he did not know what man-rape was.  Angelo could not imagine someone being that ignorant in the ways of the world.  I can.  My parents and parents-in-law were of the same generation as JoePa, the so-called &#8220;Greatest,&#8221; a demographic of Americans not reared on HBO and totally lacking in knowledge of gentlemen&#8217;s clubs and lap dances.  Of course, Angelo knows all about the black side of sexual conduct because his regular guests are strippers and he admits to surfing for porn in off hours.  But that doesn&#8217;t prevent Angelo from being outraged over JoePa&#8217;s innocence.  This is where we are culturally &#8212; those who know the perversions tarnish the reputations of those who don&#8217;t.  (And can anyone imagine the human resources officers at Penn State calling in JoePa at the age of 75 to attend a seminar on man-boy relations?) </p>
<p>My dad died a Penn State fan but it took him a while to warm up to the Nittany Lions&#8217; head coach.  The problem was JoePa&#8217;s reaction to the 1969 National Championship game.  To put that incident in perspective, I resort to a <a href="http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7212678/penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-joe-paterno-legacy">story</a> at ESPN:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Nittany Lions went 5-5 in 1966, and Paterno responded not only by designing a new defense, but by shifting his best talent to that side of the ball. In the third game of the 1967 season, Penn State almost upset No. 3 UCLA, losing 17-15. The Nittany Lions fell to 1-2. However, they didn&#8217;t lose another game until 1970.</p>
<p>Penn State won the last seven games of the 1967 season, tied Florida State, 17-17, in the Gator Bowl, and went 11-0 in each of the next two seasons. In 1968, Penn State finished second to undefeated, untied Ohio State. In 1969, the Nittany Lions finished the regular season ranked third behind No. 1 Texas and No. 2 Arkansas, who played on Dec. 6. President Richard Nixon not only attended the game, but after the Longhorns won, 15-14, with a dramatic late-game touchdown, he declared them national champion. </p>
<p>In his career at Penn State, Paterno, a Republican, befriended almost every Republican president. He gave a nominating speech for George H.W. Bush at the 1988 Republican Convention at the Louisiana Superdome, the same building where Penn State had won Paterno&#8217;s first national championship six seasons earlier. The Penn State media guide included photos of Paterno with Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush.</p>
<p>But after the 1969 season Paterno had little regard for Nixon. Paterno&#8217;s most famous line regarding a president came in his commencement address at Penn State in 1973, as the public had begun to realize that the Watergate scandal had reached the Oval Office.</p>
<p>&#8220;How could Nixon know so little about Watergate and so much about football?&#8221; Paterno asked. A year later, Nixon resigned from the presidency.</p>
<p>In 1973, the Nittany Lions went 12-0 but finished only fifth in the nation. Disgusted with the polls, Paterno declared that &#8220;the Paterno Poll&#8221; had named Penn State No. 1 and had national championship rings made for his players.</p></blockquote>
<p>That kind of self-congratulations did not sit well with Jay Hart.  Nor did Paterno&#8217;s dismissal of Nixon.  Although my parents had not voted for Nixon in 1968, they were law-abiding Americans who respected the president as something that came with being a citizen.    </p>
<p>Over time, the Harts warmed to JoePa and Penn State.  How could you not with a coach that played by the rules, worked to make his students study and graduate, and won on top of it all?  JoePa had a work ethic, sense of duty, and integrity &#8212; despite coming from the wrong Christian faith &#8212; that even fundamentalist Protestants could admire.  </p>
<p>I am sad that JoePa is no longer among us.  My father and I shared too many good times cheering on the Nittany Lions for me not to think that I have embarked on an era of life, begun by dad&#8217;s death and now underlined by JoePa&#8217;s, that will be marked by the absence of the Greatest Generation.  They certainly had their faults.  But they were better than we are.  For that reason I am glad that JoePa will be spared further assessment by that Generation&#8217;s ungrateful, disrespectful, and morally bankrupt children.  </p>
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		<title>If Only</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would even pay to see the video of the ESV translation committee if Tim and David Bayly were members. Here&#8217;s why: A Christian confesses his faith, today, when he stays married to the same woman until death. When he continues to name his race &#8220;man&#8221; rather than &#8220;humans&#8221; or &#8220;human beings.&#8221; When he chooses… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/11/if-only/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would even pay to see the video of the ESV translation committee if Tim and David Bayly were members.  <a href="http://www.baylyblog.com/2011/11/a-christian-confesses-his-faith-today-when-he-stays-married-to-the-same-woman-for-his-entire-life-when-he-isnt-at-all-inti.html#more">Here&#8217;s</a> why:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>A Christian confesses his faith, today, when he stays married to the same woman until death. When he continues to name his race &#8220;man&#8221; rather than &#8220;humans&#8221; or &#8220;human beings.&#8221; When he chooses a church where he&#8217;s sanctified rather than one where his wife is happy. A Christian confesses her faith, today, when she lets herself notice the beautiful diversity of manhood and womanhood, then calls attention to it.</em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>The Sabbath Blogging Eschatology</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In our regular duties of keeping this site running as smoothly as possibly, we occasionally examine the traffic statistics. Our most recent investigation yielded a pattern true to the Reformed standards upheld by this site&#8217;s authors and its fine constituency. How good and pleasant it is when a Sabbath eschatology manifests itself in a blog.… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/10/the-sabbath-blogging-eschatology/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In our regular duties of keeping this site running as smoothly as possibly, we occasionally examine the traffic statistics. Our most recent investigation yielded a pattern true to the Reformed standards upheld by this site&#8217;s authors and its fine constituency. How good and pleasant it is when a Sabbath eschatology manifests itself in a blog.</p>
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<p><em>—The Help</em></p>
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		<title>Hart on Van Til and Barth</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Darryl G. Hart starts game two of a double-header on Christ the Center as he speaks about Cornelius Van Til and Karl Barth with Camden Bucey. Dr. Hart delivered a conference address on the subject at Princeton Seminary in 2007. The proceedings from this conference have now been made available in the new book Karl… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/10/hart-on-van-til-and-barth/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darryl G. Hart starts game two of a double-header on <em><a href="http://reformedforum.org/programs/ctc">Christ the Center</a></em> as he <a href="http://reformedforum.org/ctc199">speaks about Cornelius Van Til and Karl Barth</a> with Camden Bucey. Dr. Hart delivered a conference address on the subject at Princeton Seminary in 2007. The proceedings from this conference have now been made available in the new book <em><a href="http://www.wtsbooks.com/product-exec/product_id/7790/nm/Karl+Barth+and+American+Evangelicalism+%28Paperback%29?utm_source=cbucey&#038;utm_medium=blogpartners">Karl Barth and American Evangelicalism</a></em>. Listen to this interesting discussion on the historical context of Barth and one of principle critics.</p>
<p><a href="http://media.reformedforum.org/assets/download/web/audio/ctc199.mp3">Download the episode</a>.</p>
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		<title>More Sarah Palin?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Despite the fact that Sarah Palin has decided not to run for the American presidency, Darryl Hart continues to make his way around the interview circuit to speak about his book From Billy Graham to Sarah Palin. Dr. Hart returns to Christ the Center to speak about religion, politics, and American evangelicalism with Camden Bucey… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/10/more-sarah-palin/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the fact that Sarah Palin has decided not to run for the American presidency, Darryl Hart continues to make his way around the interview circuit to speak about his book <em><a href="http://www.wtsbooks.com/product-exec/product_id/7787/nm/From+Billy+Graham+to+Sarah+Palin%3A+Evangelicals+and+the+Betrayal+of+American+Conservatism+%28Hardcover%29?utm_source=cbucey&#038;utm_medium=blogpartners">From Billy Graham to Sarah Palin</a></em>.</p>
<p> Dr. Hart returns to <em><a href="http://reformedforum.org/programs/ctc">Christ the Center</a></em> <a href="http://reformedforum.org/ctc198">to speak about religion, politics, and American evangelicalism</a> with Camden Bucey from <a href="http://reformedforum.org">Reformed Forum</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://media.reformedforum.org/assets/download/web/audio/ctc198.mp3">Download the episode</a>.</p>
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		<title>Fair and Balanced</title>
		<link>http://oldlife.org/2011/09/fair-and-balanced/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=fair-and-balanced</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[From our Canadian correspondent comes word of a 1926 New York Times headline that reported on one of J. Gresham Machen&#8217;s sermons about the condition of American Protestantism. Church Teaching Scored&#8211;Professor Machen Says the World Is Full of Quack Remedies For Sin&#8211;Calls for More Pessimism Not many people &#8212; believers or not &#8212; find pessimism… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/09/fair-and-balanced/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/09/The-Uses-of-Pessimism-Roger-Scruton.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/09/The-Uses-of-Pessimism-Roger-Scruton-190x300.jpg" alt="" title="The Uses of Pessimism, Roger Scruton" width="150" height="200" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1278" /></a>From our Canadian correspondent comes word of a 1926 New York Times headline that reported on one of J. Gresham Machen&#8217;s sermons about the condition of American Protestantism.</p>
<blockquote><p>Church Teaching Scored&#8211;Professor Machen Says the World Is Full of<br />
Quack Remedies For Sin&#8211;Calls for More Pessimism</p></blockquote>
<p>Not many people &#8212; believers or not &#8212; find pessimism inspiring.  But at Old Life pessimism is our bread and butter because, as Machen observed, Christianity is the religion of the broken heart.  Maybe the sentimentalists over at the Gospel Coalition would have a better read on angry Calvinism if they understood better the depressing disposition that animates Protestants who belong to Reformed churches.</p>
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		<title>Why You Won&#8217;t Find Jesus On Facebook</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those who prefer personal embodiment to an on-line presence as the means for maintaining friendship, Facebook has no real appeal. This doesn’t necessarily make non-Facebook users better people but it may make for better friendship since the real me is more of me than the virtual me. (Of course, the real me could always… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/08/why-you-wont-find-jesus-on-facebook/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/08/social-network.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/08/social-network-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="180" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1141" /></a>For those who prefer personal embodiment to an on-line presence as the means for maintaining friendship, Facebook has no real appeal.  This doesn’t necessarily make non-Facebook users better people but it may make for better friendship since the real me is more of me than the virtual me.  (Of course, the real me could always be worse – i.e., less palatable – than the virtual me, which would make Facebook the social media for misfits.)</p>
<p>The tension between the real and the virtual is all the more complicated when it comes to thinking about a friendship with Jesus.  Protestants have various hymns that celebrate the friendship between believers and their savior.  And some preachers will even encourage hearers to deepen their intimate relationship with Jesus.  </p>
<p>But I wonder about such intimacy since how many friends can a real man have?  Ten close friends seems about as many as I could imagine managing, though the reality is more like six.  Maybe someone who is more cheerful and outgoing than I could have 100 close friends, though I don’t know how you could ever email, call, or drink with such a number of people sufficiently to merit calling them close.  But beyond 100 it would seem hard to go.</p>
<p>In which case, if Jesus is a friend, even an intimate one, with all of his children (to mix metaphors), how could he possibly be a close friend to all of the elect?  One tempting answer – aside from speculating that the elect totals only in the double-digits – is to refer to his divinity as the source of his capacity to befriend so many people.  But it is not Jesus’ divinity that makes him a friend to sinners.  It is his unique work as a man who is also God.  What is more, in his earthly ministry Jesus was known to be partial to one of his disciples, as in the beloved one to whom John refers frequently.  This would suggest that in Jesus’ humanity he was drawn, as all people are, to certain persons more than others to form a close personal bond.  </p>
<p>At the same time, the very situatedness of having a bodily existence and being located in a place would also imply limits upon Jesus’ capacity for intimate relationship with all believers.  Since he has a body and is limited at least in his interactions as the second person of the Trinity to his physical form, when Christians go to be with him a lot of believers will likely be vying (and waiting) for face time with their savior.  I imagine long lines.  I also wonder if the beloved disciple will have better access to Jesus than I will.  And if I go to the new heavens and new earth expecting intimacy, I may be be very disappointed.</p>
<p>None of this is to suggest that Jesus is not a friend to sinners.  It is only to consider that our understandings or expectations of friendship should be recalibrated when it comes to considering our relationship to Jesus.  Jesus is the same, yesterday, today, and forever.  That kind of sameness is not what we encounter in any of our acquaintances in this world.  Depending on the variations of emotions and expressions in those around us, those daily changes draw us closer to some more than others.  Of course, constancy of trust is an important part of friendship.  But a friend who said the same thing all the time would be at least uninteresting.  And this is what we encounter in Jesus who has spoken in his word and has stopped speaking.  He has also communicated the same thing to all of his believers – the Bible.  Granted, this is a lot of communication and well preserved.  It is also personal, not like the computer HAL in 2001 A Space Odyssey.  But it is not intimate as we who seek close friendships consider intimacy.  </p>
<p>So instead of looking for an intimate relationship with Jesus, or regarding him on the order of a best friend, perhaps we need to be content with the relationship we have.  He is our prophet, priest, and king.  In executing those offices he may not meet a person’s felt needs for intimacy or longing for a best friend.  But thanks to the abiding goodness of his creation, he has provided stand-ins, creatures with attributes sufficiently attractive and persevering to form real friendship.  </p>
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		<title>Not Nevin or Edwards but Kuyper is the Answer</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nelson Kloosterman has a blog and is using it to promote the thought of Abraham Kuyper among other topics neo-Calvinistic. No surprise there. Admittedly, Kuyper, the Reformed transformer-of-all-trades, master of none, was an impressive figure and blessed with much sound and wise counsel about a variety of matters with which contemporary believers wrestle. If Old… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/07/not-nevin-or-edwards-but-kuyper-is-the-answer/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/07/kuyper-common-grace.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/07/kuyper-common-grace-300x122.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="122" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1120" /></a>Nelson Kloosterman has a blog and is using it to promote the thought of Abraham Kuyper among other topics neo-Calvinistic.  No surprise there.  Admittedly, Kuyper, the Reformed transformer-of-all-trades, master of none, was an impressive figure and blessed with much sound and wise counsel about a variety of matters with which contemporary believers wrestle.  If Old Life appears to be critical of Kuyper, it stems as much from the unbecoming adoration he receives as it does from questions about the limits of world-and-live viewism.  </p>
<p>And it is here that Kloosterman is useful to illustrate the problem.  A few weeks back he quoted from Kuyper&#8217;s book on common grace (translated from <a href="http://cosmiceye.wordpress.com/2011/05/11/keeping-our-balance/"></a>the Dutch, of course) about the Genesis flood.  Kloosterman&#8217;s point was that we need to make room for legitimate differences of opinion about such matters as the nature of the flood.  The reason seems to be Kuyper.  Since he did not follow conventional literalist interpretations about Genesis, so we need to make room for a diversity of perspectives on hot-button issues.  One does wonder if this extends to Christian schools.  Here&#8217;s the Kuyper quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>An esteemed correspondent has objected to our position that the flood most probably did not cover the entire globe, and in connection with this, that predatory animals perhaps remained alive elsewhere in the world.</p>
<p>Let it be stated immediately that we attach very little importance to this dispute. Our only interest was to emphasize the significance of the protection of humanity against predatory animals.</p>
<p>For the rest, we note that Scripture itself says that “the waters prevailed so mightily on the earth that all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered” (Gen. 7:19), after which Scripture mentions the highest mountain, Mount Ararat. Nevertheless it is clear that numerous mountains were higher than Ararat.</p>
<p>In the second place, that not all the animals were destroyed appears from the fact that since the flood consisted of water, the fish could not have been killed, but rather received a rare and rich prize of human and animal corpses.</p>
<p>Third, numerous fossils have been found in the earth’s depths, fossils of animals that did not belong to this time period.</p>
<p>Fourth, it is indeed true that in Genesis 8:17 we read that all the animals had to leave the ark, but a literal interpretation of this presents us with insoluble difficulties. Suppose there were eight people, together with a small number of horses, cattle, camels, sheep, goats, etc., and you let loose two lions, two tigers, two hyenas, two snakes, two wolves, two bears, and many more. How could people have defended themselves at this point? What did those animals live on? Would not the entire small stock have been killed within a short time? Were you to say that Noah and his sons might have been animal tamers, or that God might have restrained the predatory animals at that point so that they didn’t attack people, we would certainly admit that these were possible, but precisely at that point justice is not being done to Genesis 9:5.</p>
<p>In any case, we are facing difficulties here that arise from the brevity of the narrative. One person can posit this, while another can posit that, and those opinions should be permitted. But Genesis 8 and 9 are revealed to us not to have a dispute about them. The main point here involves God’s ordinances given to the new human race.</p></blockquote>
<p>But then along comes <a href="http://cosmiceye.wordpress.com/2011/06/22/deficient-devotion-to-duty/">another quote</a> from Kuyper, supplied by Kloosterman, which calls for a distinctly Christian contribution to questions about science and faith.  Again from the work on common grace, again translated from the Dutch:</p>
<blockquote><p>The life of particular grace does not stand by itself, but has been placed by God amid the life of common grace. Since Holy Scripture is definitely not limited to opening up for us the way of salvation, but has been given also to enrich common grace with new light, for those who confess that Word not to make this higher light to shine upon the arena of science, which belongs to the field of common grace, constitutes deficient devotion to duty.</p></blockquote>
<p>What is hard to understand is that many who attempt to follow Scripture on science, and so regard Genesis as more authoritative than the findings of geology, would not be friendly to Kuyper&#8217;s views on the flood.  I mean, if we are to use special revelation to interpret general revelation when it comes to politics and society, why not when it comes to geology and biology?  And yet, Kloosterman regularly denounces 2k for not letting Scripture be the norm for interpreting natural law.  </p>
<p>I am struggling to find the coherence in Dr. K&#8217;s view, except that it all seems to go back to Kuyper.  </p>
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		<title>Interview on Christ the Center</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Darryl G. Hart visited Christ the Center to speak about his new book Between the Times: The Orthodox Presbyterian Church in Transition, 1945-1990. The audio and video of the interview is available at http://reformedforum.org/ctc184/.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darryl G. Hart visited <em>Christ the Center</em> to speak about his new book <em><a href="http://www.wtsbooks.com/product-exec/product_id/7772/nm/Between+the+Times%3A+The+Orthodox+Presbyterian+Church+in+Transition%2C+1945-1990+%28Hardcover%29?utm_source=cbucey&#038;utm_medium=blogpartners">Between the Times: The Orthodox Presbyterian Church in Transition, 1945-1990</a></em>.</p>
<p>The audio and video of the interview is available at <a href="http://reformedforum.org/ctc184/">http://reformedforum.org/ctc184/</a>.</p>
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		<title>Mark Driscoll Has Some &#8216;Splaining To Do</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A story about megachurch multi-site projects at Christianity Today contains an arresting quotation from the Mars Hill corporation. Driscoll&#8217;s church is planning to plant a church in Portland, Oregon and the justification runs as follows: The city of Portland is known for many things, but the gospel of Jesus is nowhere on the list. Let&#8217;s… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/06/mark-driscoll-has-some-splaining-to-do/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/06/NBA-Seattle-Supersonics.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/06/NBA-Seattle-Supersonics-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1096" /></a>A story about megachurch multi-site projects at <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2011/july/multisitegoes.html">Christianity Today</a> contains an arresting quotation from the Mars Hill corporation.  Driscoll&#8217;s church is planning to plant a church in Portland, Oregon and the justification runs as follows:</p>
<blockquote><p>The city of Portland is known for many things, but the gospel of Jesus is nowhere on the list.</p></blockquote>
<p>Let&#8217;s see, when I think of Seattle, does the gospel come to mind?  Not really.  All I can think of are corporations &#8212; Starbucks, the McDonalds of coffee, Red Hook beer, now part of one of the consolidated breweries, and Microsoft, the company responsible for inserting bullet points whenever I hit the indent key while using MS Word.  I used to think of the Supersonics but that was before the National Basketball Association caved to the greed of one of its franchise owners.</p>
<p>All in all, the gospel is not one of the associations I make with Seattle.  Maybe Mark Driscoll should turn Seattle into the Jerusalem of the Pacific Rim before setting up shop in Portland (where even congregations with ties to Tim Keller exist). </p>
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