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		<title>Vossians and Neo-Calvinists Together?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have puzzled often about the lack of support in Vossian circles for two-kingdom theology. Many Vossians I know &#8212; and I consider myself to be one &#8212; find the spirituality of the church agreeable but balk at 2k. Why 2k is distinguished from the spirituality of the church is anyone&#8217;s guess, or why Geerhardus… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/04/vossians-and-neo-calvinists-together/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have puzzled often about the lack of support in Vossian circles for two-kingdom theology.  Many Vossians I know &#8212; and I consider myself to be one &#8212; find the spirituality of the church agreeable but balk at 2k.  Why 2k is distinguished from the spirituality of the church is anyone&#8217;s guess, or why Geerhardus Vos&#8217; distinction between this age and the age to come do not put a kabosh on tranformationalism is another of those brain-teasers you see in the back pages of <em>World</em> magazine (NOT!).  </p>
<p>With this perplexity in mind, <a href="http://reformedforum.org/two-kingdom-theology-and-gods-covenantal-fiat/">Jim Cassidy&#8217;s post</a> about Vos, Van Til, and  Kline and their implicit rejection of 2k&#8217;s dualism is instructive.  </p>
<p>On the one hand:</p>
<blockquote><p>I want to once again reiterate my deep appreciation for the work done by 2K theologians. I believe their insights are important and essential for the church to hear today. In particular, in so far as they desire to highlight the spiritual nature of the church’s ministry, I am all on board. Furthermore, I am in general agreement and in sympathy with their critique of social transformationalism. I am also deeply indebted to their redemptive-historical hermeneutic for understanding the difference between what parts of God’s Word are applicable to the church or state today, and which are not.</p></blockquote>
<p>On the other hand:</p>
<blockquote><p>. . . where I disagree is on a fundamental, deep-structural level with regard to their covenant theology. And I disagree with them because of Geerhardus Vos, Cornelius Van Til, and above all M.G. Kline. . . .</p>
<p>That brings us to Kline. Kline dedicated his great work The Structure of Biblical Authority to his professor, Cornelius Van Til. That was appropriate as the work was thoroughly Vosian and Van Tilian. But while he hints at how God’s Word and creation relate in that book (thinking here of chapter 2), the full development of his thought would have to await his Kingdom Prologue. In that book, very early on (i.e., pp. 14-41 of the W&#038;S edition), Kline introduces the concept of God’s “covenantal fiat” in the act of creation. This means, in short, that God’s act of creation IS covenantal. . . . this means that there is no place for Thomas’s nature/grace dualism, nor is there any place for German idealism’s dualisms as well. The very Word which God spoke at creation, testifies to God who spoke it through the things that have been made. At no place and at no time is creation silent. It always and everywhere speaks. This eliminates any and all notions of natural theology as understood by the Thomistic tradition, or as modernized by German idealism. Creation does not need to be perfected by grace. It is quite adequate for the knowledge of God, thank you very much.</p></blockquote>
<p>Whether Jim believes 2kers disagree with this point is not entirely clear.  But he should be aware of how important covenant theology is to both David VanDrunen (see his piece in the Strimple festschrift) and Mike Horton (see his dogmatics) at least in part because they studied with Kline.  In other words, 2k is not opposed to Jim&#8217;s point about the covenantal context of creation.  I suspect that most 2kers affirm it, especially of those who studied with Kline.</p>
<p>Where 2kers get off the Vos-Van Til-Kline-Cassidy bus is with Jim&#8217;s application:</p>
<blockquote><p>. . . our call as Christians is to point the unbeliever to that reality and call him to repentance. Indeed, God’s common grace allows the unbeliever to function and even thrive in cultural endeavors, and we praise God for that fact. But such grace is only a restrainer. It is never to be confused with common ground. There is no safe territory upon which the unbeliever can stand and do right by one kingdom, but not right by another. In every kingdom he is wrong. Even his own cultural endeavors testify against him. And if we, as Christians, do not (lovingly!) point that out to him, who will? I am afraid that the 2KT may in fact cause Christians to lose their greatest apologetic and witnessing opportunities.</p></blockquote>
<p>First, where does the Bible require believers when interacting in the public square to engage in apologetics?  When Joseph, Daniel, Jesus, and Paul engaged pagan rulers, did they first explain the covenantal context of creation before carrying out orders or answering questions?  </p>
<p>Second, the public square may presume a covenantal context, but do we need to go to first principles for everything we do with unbelievers in our neighborhoods and communities?  Do we need to explain the covenant or creation before we explain to city council the need for a new stop light at a busy intersection?  Do we need to appeal to the creator of the universe before opposing a pay raise for public school teachers?  Do we even need to give a covenantal account of the universe before declaring war on Iraq?  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to make light of Jim&#8217;s point.  But I do sometimes wonder how folks who live and breathe the antithesis live side by side in this age with unbelievers upon whom Reformed Protestants depend to stay in their lane, keep up their yards, and cheer for the home team.  </p>
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		<title>Telling the Difference between A Christian W-W and a Really Christian W-W</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In looking around for a Christian outlook on Shakespeare, and whether a literature professor at a Christian college might teach Shakespeare differently from a non-Christian, I came across this: &#8220;Why Shakespeare for Christian Students?&#8221; The author, Ralph Allan Smith says: Well, first of all, and contrary to the opinion of some scholars, Shakespeare is profoundly… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/04/telling-the-difference-between-a-christian-w-w-and-a-really-christian-w-w/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In looking around for a Christian outlook on Shakespeare, and whether a literature professor at a Christian college might teach Shakespeare differently from a non-Christian, I came across this: &#8220;<a href="http://www.berith.org/hsres/shak/shak01.html">Why Shakespeare for Christian Students</a>?&#8221;  The author, Ralph Allan Smith says:</p>
<blockquote><p>Well, first of all, and contrary to the opinion of some scholars, Shakespeare is profoundly moral. His plays, especially the tragedies, deal with the deepest moral themes and issues. Serious consideration of any of his plays forces one to think in ethical terms.</p>
<p>This does not mean that Shakespeare teaches morality in simple black and white. The literary critic Harold Bloom points to an important truth when he in error writes:</p>
<p>Shakespeare is to the world&#8217;s literature what Hamlet is to the imaginary domain of literary character: a spirit that permeates everywhere, that cannot be confined. A freedom from doctrine and simplistic morality is certainly one element in that spirit&#8217;s ease of transference, though the freedom made Dr. Johnson nervous and Tolstoy indignant. Shakespeare has the largeness of nature itself, and through that largeness he senses nature&#8217;s indifference. [2]</p>
<p>That Shakespeare is not a simplistic moralizer is true. His plays are not mere propaganda for do-gooders. But if we take the notion of &#8220;largeness of nature&#8221; and &#8220;freedom&#8221; in Shakespeare to imply that there is no doctrine and no moral structure in Shakespeare&#8217;s universe, we are missing the mark widely.</p>
<p>Imagine, for example, a version of Othello in which Iago altogether prevails, the play ending as Iago gloats over the dead bodies of Othello and Desdemona. Or a version of Hamlet in which the prince, driven to unholy revenge by the appearance of a demon impersonating his father, is able not only to destroy his enemies but rule Denmark &#8220;happily ever after.&#8221; Imagine King Lear&#8217;s evil daughters being able to love one another and cooperate successfully to steal the throne and rule the land. In real life, there may be men &#8212; there have been men &#8212; who attain their position in the world through the most nefarious Macbeth-like betrayal, if not murder, who nevertheless are able to keep their &#8220;thrones&#8221; without being tortured by guilt. In Shakespeare, however, this not only does not happen, it cannot happen.</p>
<p>What Bloom incorrectly labels is in fact the moral depth and the complexity that one finds in Shakespeare. No doubt this makes Shakespeare appear to some to be unconcerned with matters of morality, since these people assume that moral ambiguity in history contradicts moral clarity in religion. Ironically, this same moral complexity is one of the reasons that one &#8220;instinctively&#8221; associates Shakespeare and the Bible, for what other book combines ethical clarity in doctrine with historical narrative so brutally factual in its &#8220;deconstruction&#8221; of the heros? To this very day, approximately three thousand years after David reigned, the facts of his great faith and sincere love to God and his gross sins of murder and adultery confront the modern reader of the Bible with the unpleasant reality of the deep sinfulness of the very best men. The story also provides a weapon for the enemies of the faith, who ridicule Christians that regard an adulterous murderer as a wonderful Christian.</p></blockquote>
<p>Smith goes on to make three more points.  I am not particularly concerned about Smith&#8217;s reasons.  His first point seems reasonable, even if his quotation of Harold Bloom is a bit dicey for a guy who <a href="http://www.berith.org/essays/brief_response_to_fesko.html">thinks that Van Til and Kuyper</a> shot the moon when it comes to epistemology:</p>
<blockquote><p>I have to confess that for me it is exciting to see how Van Til shows not only that the Bible itself must be the presupposition for all thought, but more specifically how the Triune God is the focus and center of Christian epistemology, metaphysics, and ethics. More than anyone I had encountered before him, I came to understand that Van Til depicts man as created to trust, worship and serve the one and only Triune God. Jordan shows hows this works out in Biblical theology, illumining every aspect of the history of the covenant in the light of the Trinitarian covenant. Jeffrey Meyers’ work on worship unites the doctrine of weekly worship with the doctrines of the Trinity and the covenant — or I should say with the reality of our covenant with the Triune God — when he expounds the Biblical idea of worship as covenant renewal. Peter Leithart, elaborating on themes in Jordan, ties in the doctrine of the sacraments with the doctrine of the Trinity. In addition, he takes his Van Tillian presuppositions with him into the world of literature, both ancient and modern, Christian and pagan.</p></blockquote>
<p>In addition, it is a little curious to see such sweeping claims about the Trinitarian origins of knowledge being applied to a form of art that in 1924 the Christian Reformed Church, under the explicit influence of Kuyper, rejected, along with cards and dancing, as illegitimate for believers. (Where the followers of the nader reformatie made room for Shakespeare in the Free University is not a question I can readily answer.) And while I&#8217;m making asides, I&#8217;ll make one more &#8212; this fellow Smith has some fairly strong intellectual ties to the Federal Visionaries and has a <a href="http://www.berith.org/#new_essays">string of essays</a> critical of sundry critics of the Federal Vision.  </p>
<p>Maybe that makes me guilty of committing the genetic fallacy, but I am going back on point to ask if Smith&#8217;s interpretation of Shakespeare&#8217;s value is THE Christian outlook?  In other worlds, is there an orthodox W-W or is it simply a matter of someone trying to apply Christianity to literature and biology even if they come out wrong about the Trinitarian meaning of Othello or photosynthesis?  And even more germane, do we have a body of Christian W-W officials who will determine which interpretations are orthodox and which aren&#8217;t?  You might be tempted to answer that the assemblies of the church could decide this, but does anyone seriously want to let the Presbyterian Church of America determine the Christian W-W of George Washington?</p>
<p>Maybe too much sarcasm?  But maybe the Christian educators have to take off the cheer leading uniforms and go back to the drawing board, which would include some basic distinctions about the differences between general and special revelation, church power, and even sphere sovereignty.  </p>
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		<title>Contemporary Cosmic Christology and Contemporary Christian Music</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In his endless and zealous quest to see Abraham Kuyper prevail as the vice-regent of all things, Dr. K. (Nelson Kloosterman) keeps translating and quoting Kuyper as if such invocations will settle debates over 2k. Somehow, Kloosterman believes that 2kers deny Christ&#8217;s kingship over all things. When I respond that Jesus was Lord even over… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/01/contemporary-cosmic-christology-and-contemporary-christian-music/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his endless and zealous quest to see Abraham Kuyper prevail as the vice-regent of all things, Dr. K. (Nelson Kloosterman) keeps translating and <a href="http://cosmiceye.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/clarity-on-contemporary-cosmic-christology-1/">quoting Kuyper</a> as if such invocations will settle debates over 2k.  Somehow, Kloosterman believes that 2kers deny Christ&#8217;s kingship over all things.  When I respond that Jesus was Lord even over Saddam Hussein, just not as king in the sense of being Saddam&#8217;s redeemer, I receive responses like the following (which is generally a restatement that 2kers deny Christ&#8217;s Lordship over all things):</p>
<blockquote><p>Agreement: Jesus Christ is King of the church</p>
<p>Agreement: Jesus Christ will one day rule all the world</p>
<p>Difference: Jesus Christ is King of the cosmos. Not simply the Second Person of the Trinity, not simply the “Logos Asarkos,” not simply the Son of God. No—Jesus Christ, prophet and priest, is also King of the universe.</p>
<p>Difference: Jesus Christ is King of the cosmos today. Here and now. In this world, and in today’s history.</p>
<p>These are not quibbles. For now we are being introduced to a new terminological distinction (here) regarding Jesus’ essential reign as King and Jesus’ mediatorial reign as King. Note: not the essential reign of Jesus Christ, but merely the essential reign of Jesus as the Second Person of the Godhead.</p></blockquote>
<p>The distinction between Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ as the second person of the Trinity is lost on me. But I suppose it gets Dr. K. through these difficult mid-western winters.</p>
<p>And then, as is his habit, Dr. K. finishes off debate with a long flourish from the original Dr. K. (i.e. Kuyper):</p>
<blockquote><p>Coupled with this was a change in another arena of living. As the ecclesiastical conflict was being waged, Reformed people were throwing themselves into public social life. For them there existed two kinds of living, one kind within the Church and another kind outside the Church, and justice was no longer being done to the unity of both. That rupture could have been prevented only if the confession of the Kingship of Christ, proceeding from the church, had been recognized within popular consciousness as the governing power for all of life. But this is precisely what did not happen. Instead the Kingship of Christ was pushed further into the background, and at that point naturally this caused the contrast between ecclesiastical life and public life to penetrate the consciousness of Reformed people in a most perilous way. Ultimately it was as though people dealt with Christ only in the church, and as though outside the church they did not have to take into account the exaltation of Christ. That opposition has functioned until late in the previous [nineteenth] century, at which point room was made for the first time for better harmony in Christian living. This is how we acquired our Christian press, our Christian science, our Christian art, our Christian literature, our Christian philanthropy, our Christian politics, our Christian labor organizations, etc. In short, the understanding that Christ laid claim also to life outside the church gradually became commonplace. At present we are already to the point that nobody among us wants it any differently anymore. The problem, however, is that people still seek [to locate] the Christian character of these various expressions of life too exclusively in Christian principles, and the understanding has not yet sufficiently permeated our thinking that Christ himself is the One who as our King must imprint this Christian stamp on our expressions of life. This explains the need for awakening and fortifying this understanding once again. It is this need that Pro Rege is attempting to satisfy.</p></blockquote>
<p>According to the contemporary Dr. K., this is the heart of the issue, whether there are two ways, or two spheres of Christian endeavor, one inside and the other outside the church.  For neo-Calvinists distinctions between creational and redemptive spheres when considering aesthetics is a form of dualism and a sign of infidelity because it denies Christ&#8217;s lordship over all things.  </p>
<p>The frustrating aspect of those who are so eager to blur distinctions between the religious and the secular, between the eternal and the temporal, is that they are long on inspiration and short on qualification.  What I mean is that someone could plausibly read Kuyper on the effort to integrate the church and all other walks of life as an endorsement of contemporary Christian music.  (Since John Frame, who follows Kuyper also, makes this move in reflecting on worship, this idea is not far fetched).  When folks like Larry Norman, the first Christian rocker, asked &#8220;why should the devil have all the good music?&#8221; he was apparently rephrasing the Kuyperian desire to tear down the distinctions between Christian and secular areas of life.  He wanted to bring the expressions of secular culture into the halls of the sacred assembly.  </p>
<p>Which makes me wonder if Kuyper and neo-Calvinism is proximately responsible for the triumph of bad taste and poor music in Reformed churches.   Without making the distinctions that 2kers are wont to require, I don&#8217;t see how a Kuyperian would really object to the contemporary Christian music project on the grounds of contemporary cosmic Christology. </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of John Frame&#8217;s implicit complaints about two-kingdom theology is that its proponents are not as forthright as they should be about the Lordship of Christ or even about their own Christian profession. In his new book, he writes: Too often, in ethical debate, Christians sound too much like unbelievers. They reason as if they… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/01/authors-editors-and-readers/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of John Frame&#8217;s implicit complaints about two-kingdom theology is that its proponents are not as forthright as they should be about the Lordship of Christ or even about their own Christian profession.  In his new book, he writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>Too often, in ethical debate, Christians sound too much like unbelievers.  They reason as if they and their opponents are both operating on the same principle: human rational autonomy.  I believe they almost inevitably give this false impression when they are reasoning according to natural law alone.  Only when the Christian goes beyond natural law and begins to talk about Jesus as the resurrected king of kings does his witness become distinctively Christian.  At that point, of course, he is reasoning from Scripture, not from natural revelation alone.</p></blockquote>
<p>A recent post by Peter Leithart for <em>First Things</em>&#8216; &#8220;On the Square&#8221; reminded me of Frame&#8217;s lament.  Leithart was writing about empires in a positive light, hence his title &#8220;<a href="http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2011/12/toward-a-sensible-discussion-of-empire">Toward a Sensible Discussion of Empire</a>.&#8221;  For the politically challenged, a sensible discussion of empire may be necessary since folks on the Left and the Right are not fans of the tyranny and overreach that usually comes with imperial administrations.  Paleo-conservatives particularly lament the loss of the United States&#8217; salad days as a republic and its emergence as the helicopter-mom nation-state.  Among Leithart&#8217;s &#8220;sensible&#8221; thoughts are these:</p>
<blockquote><p>6) American hegemony is not an undiluted evil. In some respects, it is a good, and preferable to many of the conceivable alternatives. America is the linchpin of a global economic system that has improved the lives of millions. We are still a beacon of liberty, our military has effectively defeated evil regimes and delivered the weak, and we continue to be an asylum for the oppressed. The world reaps more favors from American hegemony than it wants to admit. Fr. Richard John Neuhaus and the neoconservatives are right. . . .</p>
<p> <img src='http://oldlife.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> America has often acted very badly. Noam Chomsky is right too. Native Americans have many legitimate complaints against the U.S., as do Latin American countries.While we Americans congratulated ourselves for our Christian charity in civilizing the Philippines, other Americans were killing Filipinos or herding them into concentration camps. For decades, we have deliberately dropped bombs on civilians and slaughtered hundreds of thousands. Sometimes we are merely foolish or short-sighted, as when we propped up Saddam Hussein or spread Islamicist propaganda to inspire the mujahedeen to fight the Soviets. And culture warriors should worry more about our export of domestic pathologies: If violent and sexually explicit entertainment, abortion, and an aggressive homosexual lobby threaten our culture, they aren’t good for the rest of the world either.</p>
<p>9) The benefits from empires do not excuse the behavior of empires. We cannot give ourselves a pass on international folly and injustice by congratulating ourselves on the good things we do.</p></blockquote>
<p>As much as I may debate Leithart&#8217;s thoughts about empire &#8212; they are not surprising, after all, from a fellow who wrote a positive biography of a Roman emperor &#8212; the point here is whether the Federal Visionist (which means some kind sympathy for the Christ-is-Lord form of public argument) is as forthrightly Christian as John Frame thinks believers need to be.  Notice that Leithart says nothing about Christ as king of kings.  Notice also that his criteria for judging the American empire all come from non-biblical criteria.</p>
<p>Now, the additional point is not that Leithart is a hypocrite or that Frame is selective in the writers whom he throws under the Lordship of Christ bus.  It is instead that authors write for editors and audiences and need to couch their language and arguments in terms acceptable to the editors and plausible to the readers.  This isn&#8217;t a matter of the right apologetic method or a consistent epistemology.  It is a case of either getting published or not, of being understood or not.  If Leithart had come to the editors of <em>First Things</em> with arguments in a distinctively neo-Calvinist idiom, they would likely not have published him.  </p>
<p>Perhaps that means that Christians should not write for religiously, epistemologically, or the-politically mixed publications.  Indeed, it does seem that Frame&#8217;s arguments run directly in the fundamentalist direction of not having anything to do with associations where a believer might have to hide his faith under a bushel (NO!).  But if Christian authors, even neo-Calvinist inclined ones, are going to write for publications not edited by Andrew Sandel or Ken Gentry or the faculty of Dort College, they may need to use rhetoric and arguments that are not pedal-to-the-metal Christian. </p>
<p>For this reason, I am surprised that John Frame can&#8217;t appreciate why 2k writers sound the way they do, or appeal to natural law arguments the way they do.  He himself lauds the book reviews of secular publications as a model for his own engagement with the so-called Escondido theology:</p>
<blockquote><p>To me, a review was, when possible, an occasion for careful analysis of an author’s thought and an exchange of views between the author and myself. My models here came from publications like the <em>New Yorker</em>, <em>Atlantic Monthly</em>, and <em>National Review</em>. The Christian magazine <em>Books and Culture</em> is another source of reviews that thoughtfully interact with a writer’s ideas.</p></blockquote>
<p>If Frame is used to reading non-Christian sources, and even finds in them a model of intellectual engagement, then I am surprised that he can sound so condemning of 2k writers for apparently betraying Christ&#8217;s claims upon all of life.  Then again, I am surprised that a man who uses the <em>New Yorker</em> or <em>Atlantic</em> as models for book reviewing numbers the paragraphs in his own reviews.  </p>
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		<title>Can Epistemologically Self-Conscious Calvinists Get Along?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A letter to the editor in a recent issue of New Horizons set me thinking once more about the objections to two-kingdom theology that prevail among those Reformed Protestants most attached to Dutch Reformed figures or ideas. The assertion in question stated that &#8220;our epistemological self-consciousness must be thoroughly present at every point of the… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/01/can-epistemologically-self-conscious-calvinists-get-along/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A letter to the editor in a recent issue of <em>New Horizons</em> set me thinking once more about the objections to two-kingdom theology that prevail among those Reformed Protestants most attached to Dutch Reformed figures or ideas.  The assertion in question stated that &#8220;our epistemological self-consciousness must be thoroughly present at every point of the discussion of [interactions between Reformed Protestants and Roman Catholics].&#8221;  The letter took exception to <a href="http://www.opc.org/nh.html?article_id=721">comments Michael Horton</a> made about Immanuel Kant and the moral law that provides a basis for believers&#8217; cooperation with non-believers in the common realm: &#8220;Even the philosopher Immanuel Kant retained an infallible certainty of &#8216;the moral law within&#8217; after rejecting supernatural religion.&#8221; William Dennison, the letter writer, rues Horton&#8217;s assessment of Kant and argues that &#8220;any true Van Tilian should be deeply disturbed by such a statement.&#8221;</p>
<p>The point worth reflecting on here is not the rival assessments of Kant or whether Horton was actually endorsing Kant.  It is instead the impression created that epistemological self-consciousness will lead to a rejection of Kant.  I myself remain worried about the kind of pride and even self-delusion that the project of epistemological self-consciousness may nurture.  In fact, this past Sunday at the URC in Anaheim the congregation confessed sins corporately in ways more in keeping with the &#8220;heart is desperately wicked, who can know it&#8221; than with the possibility of bringing Christian truth to bear on all parts of our waking existence.  </p>
<p>The thing is, I am pretty confident that Mike Horton is self-conscious of being Reformed and of the claims of Christ upon his thoughts and actions.  I am not sucking up to Mike.  I am simply raising the possibility that epistemological self-consciousness does not produce uniform judgments.  One epistemologically self-conscious believer may recognize value in Kant&#8217;s morality, another may esteem Hegelian idealism.  But does a disagreement in judgment mean that one party is guilty of epistemological appeasement?  Will the epistemologically self-conscious agree on whether or not to eat meat offered to idols?  </p>
<p>The two-kingdom payoff is that most of the proponents of 2k that I know have a long list of theological reasons for such advocacy.  In other words, 2k is not simply a capitulation to secular society as if 2kers are going along to get along.  Instead, 2k stems from serious reflection on the truths revealed in Scripture and confessed among Reformed churches.  I get it that many don&#8217;t see it that way.  But disagreement with other ways of construing the relationship between church and state, or between the eternal and temporal realms (such as neo-Calvinism or theonomy) does not mean that 2k lacks epistemological self-awareness.  In fact, some of us would claim that 2k takes more biblical and theological claims into account than other efforts to bring a Reformed w&#8212; v&#8212; to bear on politics.</p>
<p>So if the epistemologically self-conscious may have different assessments about the value of Beethoven&#8217;s 3rd Symphony or about the merits of Quantum Theory, is epistemological self-consciousness any guarantee of victory in debate?  I don&#8217;t know how it could be (and I am awfully aware of this knowledge thanks to a second cup of coffee).  </p>
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		<title>Epistemological Self-Consciousness, Intellectual Theonomy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What kind of a worldview does a wren exhibit when it sees the neighbor’s cat crouching in preparation to pounce and flies to the nearest telephone line? Is the bird’s knowledge of the feline species somehow diminished because he can’t theorize about his knowledge of cats and their objects of backyard prey? What about a… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/10/epistemological-self-consciousness-intellectual-theonomy/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/10/Ted_Williams.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/10/Ted_Williams-150x150.jpg" alt="" title="Ted_Williams" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1312" /></a>What kind of a worldview does a wren exhibit when it sees the neighbor’s cat crouching in preparation to pounce and flies to the nearest telephone line?  Is the bird’s knowledge of the feline species somehow diminished because he can’t theorize about his knowledge of cats and their objects of backyard prey?</p>
<p>What about a baseball player who can spot the difference between a curve and a four-seam fastball, all within a nanosecond, and swing his bat while uncoiling his body to launch the baseball into the right field stands?  If the batter can’t explain his theory of hitting, if the Phillies won’t hire him when he retires to be a hitting coach, does that make his knowledge of crushing mistake pitches illegitimate?  Does every batter have to be a Ted Williams for his hits to be certain and his runs-batted-in certified?  Did Richie Allen not win the American League MVP for 1972 because he could not theorize about what he did in the batter’s box?</p>
<p>I have contemplated these two sets of questions recently while continuing my reflections on neo-Calvinism, worldview thinking, and a certain sector of the Reformed world’s infatuation with philosophy.  Countless times I have encountered the argument that someone’s knowledge is not really knowledge because they have no epistemological foundation for it.  The public high school teacher may be able to teach algebra but because she doesn’t know where the truths of math come from, she doesn’t really understand math.  Or the elected official may understand that human life should be protected and vote for harsher penalties for manslaughter but unless he understands that human beings are created in the image of God, his vote is inauthentic.  </p>
<p>Perhaps the best bumper sticker expression of this outlook comes from the Greg Bahnsen quotation that adorns Rabbi Bret’s blog: </p>
<blockquote><p>In various forms, the fundamental argument advanced by the Christian apologist is that the Christian worldview is true because of the impossibility of the contrary. When the perspective of God’s revelation is rejected, then the unbeliever is left in foolish ignorance because his philosophy does not provide the preconditions of knowledge and meaningful experience. To put it another way: the proof that Christianity is true is that if it were not, we would not be able to prove anything.</p></blockquote>
<p>But as the two examples above indicate, creatures have knowledge and understanding of the created order all the time without being able to give a theoretical account of such ideas or activities.  Why isn’t knowledge of math and batting the human equivalent of the instincts and cunning that birds show when fleeing cats?  Granted, human beings are more than natural; we have souls, minds, language capacities.  But even these higher ranges of human existence are part and parcel of the way human beings operate on planet earth.  Those higher ranges are natural to human beings.  I see no compelling reason why we need to spiritualize of philosophize human activities that are simply analogous to what other creatures do.</p>
<p>Some neo-Calvinists and theonomists will object that such an understanding of human activity denies God and the relationship that all people have with him by virtue of creation.  In other words, human beings should do everything that they do to the glory of God.  To fail to connect the dots between algebra and doxology is to operate in a world of autonomy from God.  </p>
<p>One possible response is to say that God may be as delighted by the batter’s ability to hit the ball as he is by the wren’s capacity to elude the cat.  Which is to say that human beings in their creatureliness, in the games they play, the poems they memorize, the bridges they build, and the voyages they take, delight God because he created human beings precisely with the capacity to do these things.  And if all of creation can praise to God, from the movement of the stars to the way cats clean themselves, then why can’t human life in its naturalness also give God glory as creator whether or not a human being is engaging in eating or playing or learning self-consciously to the glory of God.  Why can’t it be the case that even despite the sinful natures that afflict all people, their existence and range of activities as created beings delight God simply as the fulfillment of his creation and providence in the same way that creatures without souls also give glory to God in accomplishing the ends for which they were created?</p>
<p>Of course, the paleo-Calvinist answers to these questions seem plausible to this paleo-Calvinist, but I would also venture an example from the spiritual world that could throw a wrench into the seemingly perpetual philosophical motion machine of neo-Calvinists.  Aside from the batter or the wren, what about the regenerate believer who can’t tell the difference between Plato and Kant?  What about the Christian who is not given to self-consciousness?  Is his plumbing any less valuable or virtuous because he can’t conceive of a philosophically coherent system that will explain how his knowledge of the leak and his experience with fixing such leaks depends upon the ontological Trinity?  If he simply begins his day asking for God’s blessing, thanks God for strength and sustenance, goes about his job, provides for his family, and leads family worship – that is, if he simply goes about his routine and seeks to honor his maker, but cannot fathom the theories that would turn his activities into the self-actualized doings of an epistemologically self-conscious believer, does that make his knowledge of plumbing, his love of family, and his enjoyment of pizza invalid?  </p>
<p>I hope not.  </p>
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