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		<title>Does Jonathan Edwards Need Paul Tripp?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I continue to come across Edwards&#8217; writings &#8212; his Faithful Narrative is part of the reader for American Heritage at Hillsdale College &#8212; I continue to be amazed at the Northampton pastor&#8217;s broad appeal, even down to the &#8220;Jonathan Edwards is my homeboy&#8221; T-shirts. Granted, Edwards has much to admire. The thought of a… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/02/does-jonathan-edwards-need-paul-tripp/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I continue to come across Edwards&#8217; writings &#8212; his <em>Faithful Narrative</em> is part of the reader for American Heritage at Hillsdale College &#8212; I continue to be amazed at the Northampton pastor&#8217;s broad appeal, even down to the &#8220;Jonathan Edwards is my homeboy&#8221; T-shirts.  Granted, Edwards has much to admire.  The thought of a pastor on the frontier of the British colonies, cut off from books and libraries, living with the constant threat of Native American attacks, writing philosophical works that continue to attract regular and academic readers is indeed remarkable.  But has the warm glow surrounding Edwards obscured other aspects that his admirers and expert interpreters have neglected?  One topic that has <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2012/02/03/carson-and-keller-on-jakes-and-the-elephant-room/">recently generated</a> a little attention is Edwards and slavery.  Since he owned slaves, and since slaveholders are only a few steps up the chain of wickedness from child molesters for modern Americans, I can&#8217;t help but wonder why more of the evangelical fans of Edwards have not had a reaction to him similar to their regard for nineteenth-century southern Protestants.  </p>
<p>Another oddity about the Edwards phenomenon is the way that few of his admirers seem to comment on his descriptions of converts in <em>A Faithful Narrative</em>.  Not only do these accounts raise questions about the propriety of revealing the identities of specific church members &#8212; think confidentiality.  But they also raise doubts about Edwards&#8217; capacity to acknowledge the excess to which his own brand of revivalism ran.  I am thinking in particular of the case of the four-year old convert, Phebe Bartlet.  Why would anyone put any stock in the spiritual labyrinth of a child&#8217;s soul?  More important, why would any pastor or mother let a child go through what Edwards describes:</p>
<blockquote><p>She was born in March, in the year 1731.  About the latter end of April, or the beginning of May 1735 she was greatly affected by the talk of her brother, who had been hopefully converted a little before, at about eleven years of age, and then seriously talked to her about the great things of religion.  Her parents did not know of it at the that time, and were not wont, in the counsels they gave to their children, particularly to direct themselves to her, by reason of her being so young, and as they supposed, not capable of understanding: but after her brother had talked to her, they observed her very earnestly to listen to the advice they gave to the other children; and she was observed very constantly to retire, several times in a day, as was concluded, for secret prayer, and grew more and more engaged in religion, and was more frequent in her closet, till at last she was wont to visit it five or six times in a day; and was so engaged in it , that nothing would at any time divert her from her stated closet exercises. . . .</p>
<p>She once of her own accord spoke of her unsuccessfulness, in that she could not find God, or to that purpose.  But on Thursday, the last day of July, about the middle of the day, the child being in the closet, where it used to retire, its mother heard it speaking aloud, which was unusual, and never had been observed before: and her voice seemed to be as of one exceedingly importunate and engaged; but her mother could distinctly hear only these words . . . &#8220;Pray, blessed Lord, give me salvation! I pray, beg, pardon, all my sins!&#8221;  When the child had done prayer, she came out of the closet, and sat down by her mother, and cried out aloud. Her mother very earnestly asked her several times, what the matter was, before she could make any answer; but she continued crying exceedingly, and writhing her body to and fro, like one in anguish of spirit.  Her mother then asked her, whether she was afraid that God could not give her salvation.  She answered, “Yes, I am afraid I shall go to hell!”  Her mother then endeavored to quiet her; and told her she would not have her cry; she must be a good girl, and prayer every day, and she hoped God would give her salvation.  But this did not quiet her at all; but she continued thus earnestly crying, and taking on for some time, till at length she suddenly ceased crying, and began to smile, and presently said with a smiling countenance, “Mother, the kingdom of heaven is come to me!”  Her mother was surprised at the sudden alteration, and at the speech; and knew not what to make of it, but at first said nothing to her.  The child presently spoke again, and said, “There is another come to me, and there is another, there is three;” and being asked what she meant, she answered, “One is, Thy will be done, and there is another Enjoy him forever;” by which it seems, that when the child said, “there is three comes to me,” she meant three passages of her Catechism that came to her mind.</p></blockquote>
<p>Huh (on SO MANY!!! levels)!?!</p>
<p>Mind you, the problem is not simply for the evangelical advocates of Edwards.  The scholarly community does not appear to be troubled by these truly bizarre reports.  I will be more than happy to be corrected either by the fans or scholars of Edwards.  </p>
<p>But in the meantime, I couldn&#8217;t resist seeing what the leading guru on rearing children among conservative Presbyterians, Paul Tripp, considers the age appropriate level of moral awareness and spiritual discernment.  Here&#8217;s one <a href="http://paultrippministries.blogspot.com/2011_08_28_archive.html">example</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Our children were too young to grasp the abstract, strategic, and often theological purposes underlying my instruction. Even if I explained everything in as age-appropriate a way as I could, they would still have no actual understanding. They just didn’t yet have the categories or the capacity to grasp the parental logic behind the plan or command. </p>
<p>So I did the same thing again and again. I would kneel down in front of them at eye level and say, “Please look at Daddy’s face. Do you know how much I love you? Do you know that your Daddy isn’t a mean, bad man? Do you know that I would never ask you to do anything that would hurt you or make you sick? I’m sorry that you can’t understand why Daddy is asking you to do this. I wish I could explain it to you, but you are too young to understand. So I’m going to ask you to do something—trust Daddy. When you walk down the hallway to do what Daddy has asked you to do, say to yourself, ‘My Daddy loves me. My Daddy would never ask me to do something bad. I’m going to trust my Daddy and stop trying to be the Daddy of my Daddy.’”</p></blockquote>
<p>I know, I know.  Eighteenth-century expectations for children were different from ours.  Even so, to consider Edwards&#8217; willingness to see little Phebe go through this spiritual anguish, along with his use of Phebe&#8217;s example to promote revivals, is hard to square with the pastor-theologian&#8217;s alleged brilliance and spiritual insight.  </p>
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		<title>When Sappy Evangelicals Turn Tart</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 16:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought the Gospel Co-Allies were supposed to be nice. The only &#8220;mean&#8221; people in the American Protestant world are the seriously Reformed, supposedly. But a recent drive-by post by Justin Taylor about Ron Paul and racism demonstrates how appearances deceive. If the sin of racism is indeed a gospel issue, and if Ron Paul… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/12/when-sappy-evangelicals-turn-tart/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the Gospel Co-Allies were supposed to be nice.  The only &#8220;mean&#8221; people in the American Protestant world are the seriously Reformed, supposedly.  But a recent <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/12/26/evangelicals-race-and-politics/?comments#comments">drive-by post</a> by Justin Taylor about Ron Paul and racism demonstrates how appearances deceive. </p>
<blockquote><p>If the sin of racism is indeed a gospel issue, and if Ron Paul is an evangelical, and if evangelicals were rightly bothered by the racist remarks of President Obama’s pastor—then wouldn’t it be a good idea for evangelicals, at the very least, to ask some questions about Ron Paul’s defense of his racist friends and racist newsletter that went out under his name?</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s all the post includes.  Justin is just wondering out loud, not taking a stand, just raising questions about Ron Paul and the implications of the Republican&#8217;s newsletters.  </p>
<p>A couple of aspects are worthy of mention here: </p>
<p>First, Justin is not being very Matthew-eighteen-like.  Are the followers of the Bible and nothing but the Bible supposed to raise suspicions about another believer&#8217;s reputation &#8212; even if only in the form of questions &#8212; so publicly?  </p>
<p>Second, aside from the mean-spirited implications of this post, what indeed is up with sins rising to the level of &#8220;gospel issue&#8221;?  I see that Taylor links to Piper&#8217;s book on race, once again hiding behind the earnestness of Minnesota&#8217;s Baptist alternative to Garrison Keillor&#8217;s Lutherans.  But what does &#8220;gospel issue&#8221; mean?  Is a sin that qualifies as a &#8220;gospel issue&#8221; so serious that sinners may not find comfort in the gospel?  Is racism one of those sins?  How about pederasty?  How about other violations of the Decalogue?  I was under the impression that one sin was just as bad in God&#8217;s sight as any other.  So where do we find support for a special list of really, really &#8212; I mean really &#8212; bad sins?  Is this what Taylor learned while studying with John Frame on the Christian life?</p>
<p>Or is this what happens when the gospel expands to include all of life?  When it does so, does the gospel merely become law?  </p>
<p>Just wondering out loud in response to Justin&#8217;s wondering. (Update: ironically Taylor&#8217;s next post was from Spurgeon on the <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/12/26/the-sin-of-listening-to-gossip/">sin</a> of even <em>listening</em> to gossip.)</p>
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		<title>Shooting Fish in a Barrel</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back around the time that Justin Taylor was yet again calling attention to Calvinist anger issues, Pat Robertson made some embarrassing comments about people suffering from Alzheimer’s. No need to repeat those words here since so many made sure that so many more did not miss Robertson’s embarrassment. What is noteworthy about the recent Robertson… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/09/shooting-fish-in-a-barrel/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back around the time that Justin Taylor was yet again calling attention to Calvinist anger issues, Pat Robertson made some embarrassing comments about people suffering from Alzheimer’s.  No need to repeat those words here since <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/09/15/the-gospel-emptying-cruelty-of-pat-robertson/">so many</a> <a href="http://www.mereorthodoxy.com/pat-robertson-divorce-alzheimers-issues-etc/ ">made sure</a> that so many more <a href="http://merecomments.typepad.com/merecomments/2011/09/russell-moore-on-pat-robertson.html ">did not miss</a> Robertson’s embarrassment.  </p>
<p>What is noteworthy about the recent Robertson kerfuffle, especially from the perspective that sees sappiness afflicting evangelicals, is discerning what prompts sunny-side up bloggers at the Gospel Coalition to exchange a happy-faced button for one with a frown.  Since Justin linked to Russell Moore’s piece on Robertson for <em>Christianity Today</em>, we have one example.  Since Justin also went on record against Rob Bell even before he had read the book on hell, we have another.  And then we have the posts about angry Calvinists.  </p>
<p>That tallies up to Pat Robertson, Rob Bell, and angry Calvinists as all worthy of Gospel Coalition opposition.  If I do my math aright, that means that TGC is against extremism and for moderation (read: nice).  My calculations may be off.  But I’m reasonably confident of my findings.  </p>
<p>Which is why I would find more instruction from TGC bloggers and writers if they took on not so easy targets, that is, if they could show discernment in situations requiring tough calls rather than simply condemning what is obviously worthy of condemnation.  (What makes Downfall a great movie is that Hitler and the Nazis emerge as three-dimensional figures.)  Do they not see that even the good guys sometimes are wrong?  And do they not see that you might help out the good guys not by linking to their latest inspiring video but by actually criticizing said guy of goodness when he goes bad.</p>
<p>To that end, I have an instance of good evangelicals going off the rails in ways that surely would have benefitted from a court room more than an echo chamber.  It’s from a while ago, so it is of no real relevance to today’s conversations, except to note that evangelicals can be a fickle lot and in need of hectoring</p>
<p>What I am referring to is “A Protestant Affirmation on the Control of Human Reproduction,” a statement originally published in 1968 in <em>Christianity Today</em> with Carl Henry’s and Harold Lindsell’s blessing.  I only know about this because one of my colleagues at Hillsdale, Allan Carlson, is coming out soon with a book on evangelicals and contraception, which is a fascinating and troubling read.  Here is what the nice and orthodox evangelicals (remember, they didn’t want to be mean like fundamentalists) thought was biblically permissible and evangelically acceptable in 1968: </p>
<blockquote><p>The Bible does not expressly prohibit either contraception or abortion;</p>
<p>The prevention of conception is not in itself forbidden or sinful providing the reasons for it are in harmony with the total revelation of God in the individual life;</p>
<p>The method of preventing pregnancy is not so much a religious as a scientific and medical question to be determined in consultation with the physician;</p>
<p>There may be times when a Christian may allow himself (or herself) to be sterilized for compelling reasons which appear to be the lesser of two evils;</p>
<p>About the necessity and permissibility for [abortion] under certain circumstances we are in accord;</p>
<p>The prescriptions of the legal code should not be permitted to usurp the authority of the Christian conscience as informed by Scripture;</p>
<p>Changes in state laws on therapeutic abortion that will permit honesty in the application of established criteria and the principles supported in this statement should be encouraged;</p>
<p>Much human suffering can be alleviated by preventing birth of children where there is a predictable high risk of genetic disease for abnormality; [and]</p>
<p>This Symposium acknowledges the need for Christians’ involvement in programs of population control at home and abroad. [quoted in <em>The Family in America</em>, Fall 2010]</p></blockquote>
<p>Sometimes, even the nice guys, like the mean, wrong, and crazy guys, go off the rails. </p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>: for the entire piece by Allan Carlson which includes the affirmation above, go <a href="http://www.familyinamerica.org/index.php?doc_id=26&#038;cat_id=9">here</a>. </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Reformed Protestantism is basically evangelical then how do you account for the major divisions that have occurred among American Presbyterians? The fundamentalist controversy apparently has nothing at stake for the Reformed/evangelical consensus since Machen and other conservative Presbyterians were fighting liberalism and EVERYONE knows that liberalism is bad. (Of course, the problem here is… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/07/why-do-reformed-think-they-are-evangelical/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/07/graham-new-york-crusade-flier.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/07/graham-new-york-crusade-flier.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="196" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1133" /></a>If Reformed Protestantism is basically evangelical then how do you account for the major divisions that have occurred among American Presbyterians?  The fundamentalist controversy apparently has nothing at stake for the Reformed/evangelical consensus since Machen and other conservative Presbyterians were fighting liberalism and EVERYONE knows that liberalism is bad.  (Of course, the problem here is that Machen’s evangelical colleagues at Princeton were some of his biggest opponents – the revival friendly Charles Eerdman and Robert Speer.)</p>
<p>According to this consensus the Presbyterian opposition to revivalism during the Second Pretty Good Awakening is also easy to explain.  Charles Finney and company were delinquent on theology and possibly practice (revivalism and new measures instead of just plain revival).  So the Second Pretty Good Awakening proves nothing.</p>
<p>Then there is the First Pretty Good Awakening where Calvinists promoted revivals.  This is the golden-age for the Reformed/Evangelical consensus.  But what about the Old Side critics?  Well, as I learned at Westminster and from Leonard Trinterud, the Old Side were proto-liberals, propounding a rationalistic theology with Enlightenment echoes, and they were drunks, falling off their horses on the way home from presbytery thanks to a heavy elbow.</p>
<p>In the <a href="http://thechristiancurmudgeonmo.blogspot.com/2011/07/kinder-gentler-calvinism.html">recent exchange</a> with Ken Stewart over at the Christian Curmudgeon I came across another explanation for the apparent tension between Reformed Protestants and evangelicals – which is, blame the Dutch.  In response to differences of interpretation about revivalism, Stewart wrote to the Curmudgeon:</p>
<blockquote><p>I think we disagree is in our estimation of the danger posed by Hart and his school of writers. Westminster Escondido, in a strange continuity with Calvin Seminary Grand Rapids (these schools are usually at loggerheads) are centers from which revival is disparaged. So important a church historian as George Marsden (raised in the OPC) termed Darryl Hart&#8217;s book on American presbyterianism &#8220;anti-evangelical&#8221; because of its steady misrepresentation of the Great Awakening. So, while from your vantage point, you are aware of Hart, from mine &#8211; I think he and his allies represent a danger so great that it needs to be countered.</p></blockquote>
<p>When pushed on the fact that George Marsden, who studied with Cornelius Van Til, who was very critical of evangelicalism, Stewart responded:</p>
<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t dispute CVT&#8217;s anti-evangelical posture; in fact I would suggest that the influx of CRC faculty into WTS in the 1930&#8242;s fundamentally shifted the young WTS away from its Princeton heritage, which had been decidedly the other way. When one stands back from this, it makes us realize that the whole conservative Reformed tradition in this country has been influenced far more by Grand Rapids theology than is generally acknowledged. I am not demonizing the CRC in this particular respect; I am simply highlighting the fact that throughout the 20th century, there have been rival versions of the Reformed faith jockeying with one another for dominance.</p></blockquote>
<p>What is fairly amusing about this reply is that the Dutch-Americans at Calvin Seminary were responsible for printing a <a href="http://www.calvin.edu/library/database/crcpi/fulltext/ctj/117846.pdf">review</a> that Stewart wrote of <em><a href="http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0801026156">Recovering Mother Kirk</a></em>, which was hardly flattering of the book’s author or his interpretation of the Reformed tradition.  If the Dutch-American Reformed mafia wanted to enlarge their control of the interpretation of American Protestantism, they fell asleep when reading Stewart’s submission.</p>
<p>Stewart and others who reject the argument that Reformed and evangelical are at odds gain a lot of traction by suggesting that Reformed critics of evangelicalism construe  Reformed and evangelical Protestantism as fundamentally at odds or separate entities.  The proponents of an evangelical-friendly Reformed faith also like to point out that Reformed churches have made lots of room for evangelicalism and even revivalism.  So both conceptually and historically, supposedly, the Reformed critics of evangelicalism are flawed.</p>
<p>But for this critic, it is obvious that evangelicals and Reformed are both Protestant and so overlap at certain points, both religiously and historically.  Experimental Calvinism arose in the context of Reformed churches (especially when the prospects for reforming the national churches were looking bleak) and Reformed and Presbyterians churches have been friendly to evangelicalism (though I wish they were not).</p>
<p>What the proponents of the consensus are incapable of doing is accounting for the splits that have occurred within Reformed churches over evangelicalism (even without the presence of Dutch Reformed).  The Old Side and the Old School split from their Presbyterian peers because the pro-revivalists believed subscription and polity were secondary to conversion and holy living.  And so it has always been with evangelicalism.  It is inherently anti-formal in the sense that forms to not matter compared to the experience of new birth or ecstatic worship.  Evangelicals are also inherently inconsistent about this because since we exist as human beings in forms (i.e., bodies that are either male or female), we cannot escape formalism of some kind.  Either way, on the matter of forms – creeds, worship, and polity – those who promote revivals or consider themselves evangelical are indifferent.  The Spirit unites, not the forms.  The same goes for different shades of evangelicalism: for the Gospel Coalition it is the gospel not the forms that unite; and for the Baylys and other “do this and live” types, it is the law not the forms that unites.  Sticklers for the regulative principle, the system of doctrine, or presbyterian procedure are simply ornery obstacles to uniting Protestants on what is truly important.  </p>
<p>What should not be missed either is that when Presbyterian particularists insist that forms matter, that the word reveals forms, and that the word and the Spirit work in conjunction, the response is invariably that the particularlists are mean and lack the fruit of the Spirit.  Why?  Because they do not recognize the presence of the Spirit.  </p>
<p>And so to bring a little more light on the matter from one of those nefarious Dutch-Reformed types (though he is actually German), here is a useful reflection from Richard Muller on the impulses within evangelicalism that lead away from the insights of the Reformation(if only he had been editing the <em>Calvin Theological Journal</em> when Stewart reviewed <em>Recovering Mother Kirk</em>):</p>
<blockquote><p>Even more than this, however, use of the language of personal relationship with Jesus often indicates a qualitative loss of the traditional Reformation language of being justified by grace alone through faith in Christ and being, therefore, adopted as children of God in and through our graciously given union with Christ. Personal relationships come about through mutual interaction and thrive because of common interests. They are never or virtually never grounded on a forensic act such as that indicated in the doctrine of justification by faith apart from works &#8211; in fact personal relationships rest on a reciprocity of works or acts. The problem here is not the language itself: The problem is the way in which it can lead those who emphasize it to ignore the Reformation insight into the nature of justification and the character of believer’s relationship with God in Christ. </p>
<p>Such language of personal relationship all too easily lends itself to an Arminian view of salvation as something accomplished largely by the believer in cooperation with God. A personal relationship is, of its very nature, a mutual relation, dependent on the activity –  the works – of both parties. In addition, the use of this Arminian, affective language tends to obscure the fact that the Reformed tradition has its own indigenous relational and affective language and piety; a language and piety, moreover, that are bound closely to the Reformation principle of salvation by grace alone through faith alone. The Heidelberg Catechism provides us with a language of our &#8220;only comfort in life and in death&#8221; –  that &#8220;I am not my own, but belong – body and soul, in life and death to my faithful Savior, Jesus Christ&#8221; (q. 1). &#8220;Belonging to Christ,” a phrase filled with piety and affect, retains the confession of grace alone through faith alone, particularly when its larger context in the other language of the catechism is taken to heart. We also have access to a rich theological and liturgical language of covenant to express with both clarity and warmth our  relationship to God in Christ. </p>
<p>Even so, the Reformed teaching concerning the identity of the church assumes a divine rather than a human foundation and assumes that the divine work of establishing the community of belief is a work that includes the basis of the ongoing life of the church as a community, which is to say, includes the extension of the promise to children of believers. The conversion experience associated with adult baptism and with the identification of the church as a voluntary association assumes that children are, with a few discrete qualifications, pagan-and it refuses to understand the corporate dimension of divine grace working effectively (irresistibly!) in the perseverance of the covenanting community. It is a contradictory teaching indeed that argues irresistible grace and the perseverance of the saints and then assumes both the necessity of a particular phenomenology of adult conversion and &#8220;decision.&#8221; (“How Many Points?” Calvin Theological Journal, Vol. 28 (1993): 425-33 posted at <a href="http://kimriddlebarger.squarespace.com/how-many-points/">Riddelblog</a>)</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Orthodox Presbyterians Rival Gospel Co-Allies Enthusiasm for Enthusiasm</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[General Assemblies are not always like this but the recent OPC GA did assume more the character of a national preaching conference (of course, minus the celebrity pastors) than a regular meeting of the church&#8217;s highest judicial body. All of the presentations from the OPC&#8217;s standing committees included historical overviews as well as substantial edification… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/06/orthodox-presbyterians-rival-gospel-co-allies-enthusiasm-for-enthusiasm/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/06/curb-enthusiasm.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/06/curb-enthusiasm.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1093" /></a>General Assemblies are not always like this but the recent OPC GA did assume more the character of a national preaching conference (of course, minus the celebrity pastors) than a regular meeting of the church&#8217;s highest judicial body.  All of the presentations from the OPC&#8217;s standing committees included historical overviews as well as substantial edification and exhortation from God&#8217;s word.  Don Poundstone, a retired minister and home missionary, rounded out the proceedings with his address at the Saturday night banquet in which he argued, based on Christ&#8217;s responses to Pilate (John 18), that the OPC at its best had been a witness to the truth of Scripture and had affirmed that Christ&#8217;s kingdom is not of this world.  Video recordings of most of the presentations are available <a href="http://www.opc.org/GA/media/">here</a>. (Foreign missions talks are unavailable because of the sensitivity of information regarding several fields of ministry.)  </p>
<p>Arguably, one of the most moving parts of the Assembly came on Saturday morning during the presentation by the Committee on Christian Education.  Part of the proceedings included a talk by Rev. John P. Galbraith, a 98-year old minister who actually studied at Westminster when Machen was still teaching and went on to serve in a variety of capacities, including General Secretary of both the Committee on Home Missions and the Committee on Foreign Missions.  Even before speaking &#8212; which revealed a man with a mind still sharp and a tongue still eloquent &#8212; Galbraith received a standing ovation from commissioners and guests.  The first words out of his mouth were those of the apostle Paul, &#8220;I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do.&#8221;  Galbraith then added, &#8220;And you applaud me?&#8221;  </p>
<p>As near as I could tell, Galbraith&#8217;s deflection of applause characterized the week of presentations, devotionals, and sermons.  Orthodox Presbyterians were glad to have reached the seventy-fifth birthday, but but they also knew that their history was not sensational or the product of their own faithfulness.  (Self-promotion alert: see this point expressed in a different way <a href="http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2011/06/small-is-beautiful">here</a>.)  As cliched as it may have sounded, the truth that human accomplishments were less responsible than God&#8217;s grace for the OPC&#8217;s &#8220;success&#8221; was overwhelming sense among all those gathered.  Part of the reason must have been that the last time the OPC met to throw a birthday party &#8212; in 1986 at Tony Campolo&#8217;s Eastern University &#8212; the church also voted itself out of existence.  That is, the OPC accepted the invitation from the PCA to join and be received into the newer Presbyterian denomination.  The proposal did not receive the super-majority of votes needed to be sent to the presbyteries for ratification.  But a majority of commissioners in 1986 were willing to hitch their own and longer story to a communion that was less than fifteen years old.  After twenty-five years of developments in both denominations, hardly anyone, at least in the OPC, regrets the rejection of J&amp;R.  </p>
<p>And so with quiet resolve and restrained joy Orthodox Presbyterians reflected on their past and heard preachers and missionaries recount the mighty deeds of God throughout redemptive history.  It was by most accounts a time of great blessing for all who attended, and even prompted some to think that the OPC should sponsor its own national conference.  Its speakers, like its history, would not be famous.  And so the turnout would be light, insufficient to cover expenses.  But those preachers would know their Bibles.  Perhaps, just as important, they&#8217;d know their place &#8212; that the power of their words depends not on their own accomplishments or celebrity but on the God who gave them the word to proclaim.  </p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 14:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Fea links to this amusing video. The mocking of small groups aside &#8212; and remember that we have pietists to thank for this odd form of Christian piety &#8212; I do wonder what would happen to the dynamics of a group like this if you introduced a Presbyterian elder (not to be confused the… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/05/putting-the-super-in-superficial/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.philipvickersfithian.com/2011/05/shallow-small-group-bible-study.html">John Fea</a> links to this amusing video.  </p>
<p>The mocking of small groups aside &#8212; and remember that we have pietists to thank for this odd form of Christian piety &#8212; I do wonder what would happen to the dynamics of a group like this if you introduced a Presbyterian elder (not to be confused the the Mormon variety) into the mix.  To help answer that question, here&#8217;s how the OPC&#8217;s Form of Government describes the work of an elder:</p>
<blockquote><p>1. Christ who has instituted government in his church has furnished some men, beside the ministers of the Word, with gifts for government, and with commission to execute the same when called thereto. Such officers, chosen by the people from among their number, are to join with the ministers in the government of the church, and are properly called ruling elders.</p>
<p>2. Those who fill this office should be sound in the faith and of exemplary Christian life, men of wisdom and discretion, worthy of the esteem of the congregation as spiritual fathers.</p>
<p>3. Ruling elders, individually and jointly with the pastor in the session, are to lead the church in the service of Christ. They are to watch diligently over the people committed to their charge to prevent corruption of doctrine or morals. Evils which they cannot correct by private admonition they should bring to the notice of the session. They should visit the people, especially the sick, instruct the ignorant, comfort the mourning, and nourish and guard the children of the covenant. They should pray with and for the people. They should have particular concern for the doctrine and conduct of the minister of the Word and help him in his labors.</p>
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<p>The least that can be said is that an elder should be expected to refer to small group attendees as other than &#8220;dude&#8221; or &#8220;dudette.&#8221; </p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 11:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking of matters missional. . . I am struck by the motivation that missions proponents sometimes use to justify their efforts. Having grown up in a faith mission environment, I have some familiarity with the ploys designed to generate gifts for missions and even cajole youth into full-time Christian service. As a kid even I… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/05/turning-the-gospel-promise-into-a-law-threat/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/05/Duff_Alexander.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/05/Duff_Alexander.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="175" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1056" /></a>Speaking of matters missional. . . </p>
<p>I am struck by the motivation that missions proponents sometimes use to justify their efforts.  Having grown up in a faith mission environment, I have some familiarity with the ploys designed to generate gifts for missions and even cajole youth into full-time Christian service.  As a kid even I thought some of the tactics were manipulative.  But recent reading in the work of Alexander Duff (1806-1878), who was the first modern  Presbyterian missionary, the Church of Scotland&#8217;s own ambassador to India &#8212; Presbyterianism&#8217;s William Carey as it were, has prompted me to think that much of the modern movement for overseas evangelism has employed what appear to be dubious arguments.  The following comes from Duff&#8217;s <em>Missions The Chief End of the Christian Church</em> (1839):</p>
<blockquote><p>It thus appears abundantly manifest from multiplied Scripture evidence, that the chief end for which the Christian Church is constituted—the leading design for which she is made the repository of heavenly blessings—the great command under which she is laid—the supreme function which she is called on to discharge—is, in the name and stead of her glorified Head and Redeemer, unceasingly, to act the part of an evangelist to all the world. The inspired prayer which she is taught to offer for spiritual gifts and graces, binds her, as the covenanted condition on which they are bestowed at all, to dispense them to all nations. The divine charter which conveys to her the warrant to teach and preach the Gospel at all, binds her to teach and preach it to all nations. The divine charter which embodies a commission to administer Gospel ordinances at all, binds her to administer these to all nations. The divine charter which communicates power and authority to exercise rule or discipline at all, binds her to exercise these, not alone or exclusively, to secure her own internal purity and peace, union and stability; but chiefly and supremely, in order that she may thereby be enabled the more speedily, effectually, and extensively, to execute her grand evangelistic commission in preaching the Gospel to all nations.</p>
<p>If, then, any body of believers united together as a Church, under whatever form of external discipline and polity, do, in their individual, or congregational, or corporate national capacity, wilfully and deliberately overlook, suspend, or indefinitely postpone, the accomplishment of the great end for which the Church universal, including every evangelical community, implores the vouchsafement of spiritual treasures—the great end for which she has obtained a separate and independent constitution at all,—how can they, separately or conjointly, expect to realize, or realizing, expect to render abiding, the promised presence of Him who alone hath the keys of the golden treasury, and alone upholds the pillars of the great spiritual edifice? If any Church, or any section of a Church, do thus neglect the final cause of its being, and violate the very condition and tenure of all spiritual rights and privileges, how can it expect the continuance of the favour of Him from whom alone, as their Divine fount and springhead, all such rights and privileges must ever flow? And, if deprived of His favour and presence, how can any Church expect long to exist, far less spiritually to flourish, in the enjoyment of inward peace, or the prospect of outward and more extended prosperity? (pp. 13-14)</p></blockquote>
<p>I am not convinced, as valuable as foreign missions are, that threatening the church with a revocation of God&#8217;s favor is wise.  Worse, I don&#8217;t believe it is true.  But it is curious to see how old this kind of appeal is.</p>
<p>What is also worth highlighting is Duff&#8217;s account of Reformed Protestantism several pages later, since he has to acknowledge that the Reformation did not show an interest in non-European pagans and so did not measure up to the ideal of the true church.  Because the Reformation was &#8220;itself a grand evangelistic work&#8221; by which the Spirit &#8220;put it into the hearts of an enlightened few, to arise and make an &#8216;aggressive movement&#8217; on the unenlightened many, by whom they were every where surrounded,&#8221; Duff is at liberty to approve of  sixteenth century Protestants.  But when it comes to efforts of the Covenanters and the remnant of Presbyterians who tried to avoid compromise with the politics of episcopacy, the crown, or parliament, Duff (who was a student of Thomas Chalmers and would take sides with the Free Church during the Disruption of 1843) is not so approving:</p>
<blockquote><p>When, after the Reformation, the Protestant Church arose, as by a species of moral resurrection, with newborn energies, from the deep dark grave of Popish ignorance and superstition,—then, was she in an attitude to have gone forth in the spirit of her own prayers, and in obedience to the Divine command, on the spiritual conquest of the nations,—and, in the train of every victory, scatter as her trophies, the means of grace, and as her plentiful heritage, the hopes of a glorious immortality. But instead of thus fulfilling the immutable law of her constitution,—instead of going forth in a progress of outward extension, and onward aggression, with a view to consummate the great work which formed at once the eternal design of her Head, and the chief end of her being :—the Church seemed mainly intent on turning the whole of her energies inward on herself. Her highest ambition and ultimate aim seemed to be, to have herself begirt as with a wall of fire that might devour her adversaries—to have her own privileges fenced in by laws and statutes of the realm—to hare her own immunities perpetuated to posterity by solemn leagues and covenants. (p. 22)</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what the point of this is other than to suggest that since 1800 we have always had the missionally minded and manifesto affirming with us.  But because of the ways in which proponents of missions can threaten by inducing guilt, those with questions about the methods, if not the content, of foreign missions (especially non-denominational kinds) have to prove their innocence before raising their concerns.    </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carl Trueman has some provocative thoughts on the difference between American and British evangelicalism and the conferences that sustain them. He was speaking at an event in Wales: First, the conference was built around content not speakers. In fact, I was almost refused entry to my own final seminar because I could not find my… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/04/speaking-truth-to-fame/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/04/gecko.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/04/gecko-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1028" /></a>Carl Trueman has some provocative <a href="http://www.reformation21.org/blog/2011/04/home-thoughts-from-abroad.php">thoughts</a> on the difference between American and British evangelicalism and the conferences that sustain them.  He was speaking at an event in Wales:</p>
<blockquote><p>First, the conference was built around content not speakers.  In fact, I was almost refused entry to my own final seminar because I could not find my armband. I was unrecognized by the steward even after speaking three times.  Fantastic.  In the UK, people come to hear what is said; they do not particularly care for who is saying it.  This is subtly evident in the way events are marketed in the two countries.  It also points to a major cultural difference.  In the US in general, there is great suspicion of institutions yet huge and often naïve confidence placed in individuals.  This is part of what makes celebrity culture so important, from politics to the church.   In the UK, there is an often naïve trust in institutions but far more suspicion of individuals.  I make this point as an observation; but also to flag the fact that US culture lends itself more readily to the problems Paul highlights in 1 Corinthians.</p></blockquote>
<p>That would seem like a point that folks at the Gospel Coalition, Together for the Gospel,<a href="https://rcaintegrity.smartevents.com/2011-rca-integrity-leadership-conference"> RCA Annual Integrity Leadership Conference</a> organizers, and even the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals might want to consider.  </p>
<p>And it may point to another difference between American and British evangelicals: born-again Americans are suckers for an English accent, even if it expresses thoughts disagreeable.  </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whether he has too much time on his hands or is an outlier in the Gospel Coalition, Kevin DeYoung deserves kudos for reading books by Reformed confessionalists. Whether more reading will be sufficient to wean DeYoung off pietism is another matter. But he will have to spend more time on the topic if he is… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/04/having-his-confession-and-feeling-it-too/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/04/wilhelmina_mints-cat.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/04/wilhelmina_mints-cat-150x121.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="121" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1016" /></a>Whether he has too much time on his hands or is an <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2011/04/12/can-pietism-and-confessionalism-be-friends-part-1-of-3/?comments#comments">outlier in the Gospel Coalition</a>, Kevin DeYoung deserves kudos for reading books by Reformed confessionalists.  Whether more reading will be sufficient to wean DeYoung off pietism is another matter.  But he will have to spend more time on the topic if he is going to understand that leavening confessionalism with a dose of pietism will not result in healthy churches and grounded Christians.  In the history of Protestanism, pietism has been the solvent rather than the medicine of Reformed churches.</p>
<p>Obviously, I agree with DeYoung when he agrees with me (it is often usually about ME!).  So I was glad to read in his post the following reflection based on <em>Lost Soul</em>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I am sympathetic with much of this critique of evangelical pietism. I agree with Darryl Hart’s contention in <em>The Lost Soul of American Protestantism</em> that American evangelicalism has tried too hard to be relevant, has largely ignored organic church growth by catechesis, has too often elevated experience at the expense of doctrine, has minimized the role of the institutional church, and has worn out a good number of Christians by assuming that every churchgoer is an activist and crusader more than a pilgrim. Confessionalism would be good tonic for much of what ails the evangelical world.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, I agree that confessionalism is good.  But it is way more than a tonic.  It is the cure for evangelicalism.  As chauvinistic as it sounds, the Reformers who established confessional churches were following carefully the teaching of Scripture.  For that reason, confessionalism is biblical and to depart from it is to be – well – unbiblical.  If confessionalism is simply an option, an item on column A of the Chinese menu of Christian devotions, then it could be a nice side dish to accompany a large helping of evangelicalism, or maybe the sour to add to evangelical piety’s sweet.  That is not the way confessionalists look at confessionalism.  It is the right way and to depart from confessionalism is just plain wrong.</p>
<p>From this perspective, I wonder if DeYoung notices the way that evangelicalism has tinkered with confessionalism.  Confessionalism came first, pietism and revivalism came later, and they were efforts to correct the confessional churches.  In which case, if I embrace DeYoung’s effort to combine the best of confessionalism and pietism, I am in the odd situation of accepting that confessionalism has defects that need correction.  I don’t see it that way.  Of course, I am not going to say that confessionalism was perfect.  But I’m not sure of its defects and I don’t recognize the ones that DeYoung thinks are there.  And this is where the antagonism between confessionalism and pietism resides.  What are the Reformed churches’ defects?  Is pietism a remedy?</p>
<p>Consequently, a “but” is hovering near DeYoung’s agreement with Lost Soul:</p>
<blockquote><p>And yet, I worry that confessionalism without a strong infusion of the pietism it means to correct, can be a cure just as bad as the disease. Is there a way to reject revivalism without discounting genuine revival in the Great Awakening? Can I like Machen and Whitefield? Is there a way to say, “Yes, the church has tried too hard to Christianize every area of life” while still believing that our private faith should translate into public action? Hart argues that after revivalism Christian devotion was no longer limited to “formal church activities on Sunday or other holy days,” but “being a believer now became a full-time duty, with faith making demands in all areas of life” (13). Given the thrust of the book, I think it’s safe to say Hart finds this troubling.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ya thnk?  </p>
<p>Again, if you look at the history of Protestantism, it is hard to see how evangelicalism has anywhere retained confessionalism.  Wherever revival fires have burned, within a generation a high view of the means of grace, church office, sober and ordered worship, and church teaching has gone the way of smoke.  If you look at revivals – you better not look too closely.  Notice the shrieks, the fainting, the tears, the laughing, the revivalists’ egos (Whitefield was quite the self-promoter and Ban Franklin profited from that publicity)  – they have always been there.  These antics led critics to charge revivalism with enthusiasm.  Let me be clear: pietism and revivalism are enthusiastic.  Edwards tried to give enthusiasm a philosophical gloss.  But some philosophers <a href="http://paulhelmsdeep.blogspot.com/2011/04/dr-sean-lucass-friendly-correction.html">aren’t buying</a>. </p>
<p>But what about the problem of dead orthodoxy?  This would appear to be the major defect of confessionalism.  According to DeYoung:</p>
<blockquote><p>While I agree wholeheartedly that experience does not a Christian make, I wish the strong confessional advocates would do more to warn against the real danger of dead orthodoxy. It is possible to grow up in a Christian home, get baptized as an infant, get catechized, join the church, take the Lord’s Supper, be a part of a church your whole life and not be a Christian. It is possible to grow up in an Old World model where you inherit a church tradition (often along ethnic lines), and stay in that church tradition, but be spiritually dead. There are plenty of students at Hope College and Calvin College (just to name two schools from my tradition) who are thoroughly confessional as a matter of form, but not converted.</p></blockquote>
<p>I know DeYoung didn’t mean it this way, but his reference to Calvin and Hope is a bit of a cheap shot against confessionalism.  As if the CRC and the RCA are beacons of confessionalism.  As if anyone in Reformed circles these days associates these communions with Reformed orthodoxy, dead or alive.  I don’t write these words with glee.  I was ordained in the CRC during the women’s ordination imbroglio and still have fond memories and good friends among the Dutch-American Reformed. I wish the CRC were not what it is, and that the RCA had retained its seventeenth-century confessionalism, like when its pastors in New Netherland petitioned the colony’s governor to keep out the Lutherans (sorry Lily and John) and the Quakers.</p>
<p>Instead, and unfortunately, the CRC and RCA are examples not of dead orthodoxy but of communions that lost touch with confessionalism.  The cure for those students at Calvin and Hope is not revival.  John Williamson Nevin’s own account of his encounter with revivalism at Union College should give anyone pause in recommending revival to children of the covenant.  The cure for those students is a consistory that doesn’t admit children to full communion until they have made a credible profession of faith – that is, a consistory that looks past the blonde hair and Queen Wilhelmina mints and recognizes these as children of Abraham who need to own their baptism by professing faith in Christ and living a life of repentance.</p>
<p>Plus, does DeYoung really pretend to think that pietistic churches don’t have unconverted in their midst, even those who have walked the aisle?  Even Edwards thought the revival hadn’t taken.  That’s part of the reason he came out with David Brainerd’s life and journals in 1749.  Edwards’ church needed another dose of revival.  So revival doesn’t cure.  Or if it does cure, how do we know?  How do we know that the folks walking down front during the altar call – what hip technique has replaced the altar call – are genuine?  Isn’t it possible to fake a conversion experience?    </p>
<p>The question, then, is whether revival is the means that God has appointed to save his people.  I look in the pastoral epistles, and I look, and I look, and I don’t see it.  What I see is Paul telling Timothy to discharge his ministerial duties faithfully in good seasons and bad. The pastor’s work – unlike the itinerant evangelist’s –  is long, routine and sometimes boring that doesn’t have the lights, camera, and action of pietism and revivalism.  But it may be the way that God actually saves a people for himself.  And he has a history of using ordinary means to accomplish invisibly extraordinary ends.</p>
<p>So while DeYoung thinks confessionalists need to keep an eye out for dead orthodoxy, why don’t pietists or their enablers spend much time worried about live frivolity?  When it comes to dead or alive, I get it.  I’ll take life, thank you (though Paul is sitting on my shoulder telling me it is gain to be with the Lord – while Homer is yelling from the other shoulder – Doh!).  But when it comes to orthodoxy and frivolity, it’s also a no-brainer.  In which case, why do pietists so identify with life that they sacrifice orthodoxy for triviality, depth for breadth, teaching for feeling, sobriety for earnestness?  </p>
<p>Maybe the problem is the way pietists view being alive.  I don’t know of too many people these days who are orthodox but don’t believe.  I don’t even know of too many in the heyday of orthodoxy, when it had the imprimatur of the state, who were orthodox and dead.  Orthodoxy has never been an appealing position – you know, abominate yourself because of sin, look solely to Christ who is now your master and deserves your loyalty and obedience, submit to the oversight of undershepherds God has appointed for your good.  Those are not ideas readily advantageous to anyone.  </p>
<p>DeYoung does, however, indicate what he means by life.  And it sets up a contrast with the kind of piety that confessionalism nurtures (this is not confessionalism against piety but against pietism):  </p>
<blockquote><p>But I want a certain kind of confessionalism. I want a confessionalism that believes in Spirit-given revival, welcomes deep affections, affirms truth-driven experience, and understands that the best creeds should result in the best deeds. I want a confessionalism that believes in the institutional church and expects our Christian faith to impact what we do in the world and how we do it. I want a confessionalism that is not ashamed to speak of conversion—dramatic conversion for some, unnoticed conversion for many.</p></blockquote>
<p>So while DeYoung wants revival, confessionalists want the weekly observance of the means of grace.</p>
<p>DeYoung wants deep affections but confessionalists want sobriety and self-control.</p>
<p>DeYoung wants truth-driven experience and confessionalists want children to grow up and understand what they have memorized in the catechism (the way that children eventually learn the grammar of the language they grow up speaking).</p>
<p>DeYoung wants the best creeds to result in the best deeds while confessionalists want believers to live out their vocations so that plumbers will plumb like every other plumber to the best of their ability.  </p>
<p>DeYoung wants the belief in the institutional church but confessionalists ask what’s up with the Gospel Coalition?  </p>
<p>DeYoung expects our Christian faith to impact what we do in the world and how we do it while confessionalists believe in the spirituality of the church. </p>
<p>And DeYoung wants dramatic conversion while confessionalists want lifelong mortification and vivification (that is, the original Protestant meaning of conversion).</p>
<p>In sum, confessionalists are content with the Shorter Catechism’s description of the Christian life when it answers the question, “What does God require of us that we may escape his wrath and curse due to us for sin?”</p>
<blockquote><p>A. To escape the wrath and curse of God due to us for sin, God requires of us faith in Jesus Christ, repentance unto life, with the diligent use of all the outward means whereby Christ communicates to us the benefits of redemption.</p></blockquote>
<p>That is not all that fancy or elaborate a way of putting the Christian life but it has enough work for even the best of Christians.  To trust Jesus daily and believe God’s promise that Christ is for me and that God is not faking it in the gospel, to repent daily of sin, and to attend weekly to the means of grace and order my affairs so that my attention is focused on the day of rest – that is a pretty full plate.  Why pietists want to pile on is a mystery.  It seems down right glutinous.  </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did not see Kevin DeYoung&#8217;s post at his Gospel Coalition blog about confessionalism and pietism &#8212; and for good reason. Between the time you opened the page and blinked it was gone. (And it promised to be the first of a three-part series.) (UPDATE: For those old enough to remember the Tonight Show when… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/04/the-gospel-coalitions-thin-skinned-long-arm/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/04/big-brother-1984.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/04/big-brother-1984-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1012" /></a>I did not see Kevin DeYoung&#8217;s post at his Gospel Coalition blog about confessionalism and pietism &#8212; and for good reason.  Between the time you opened the page and blinked it was gone.  (And it promised to be the first of a three-part series.)  </p>
<p>(UPDATE: For those old enough to remember the Tonight Show when Johnny Carson was the host, and Doc Severinson was the band leader, Doc was not always present, often playing other gigs.  Johnny regularly said to Ed McMahon, &#8220;Doc is here?  Doc is not here.&#8221;  In that same vein, Kevin&#8217;s post was not here.  It is now <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2011/04/12/can-pietism-and-confessionalism-be-friends-part-1-of-3/?comments#comments">here</a>.)</p>
<p>Why it vanished from the Gospel Coalition website is a mystery.  At the risk of shameless self-promotion, the reason may have to do with DeYoung&#8217;s decision to interact with <em>The Lost Soul of American Protestantism</em>, a book written by this blogger.  Seemingly, any attention given to the Old Life case for confessionalism is improper at the Gospel Coalition because that case has uncomfortable implications for the gospel Allies.  </p>
<p>And at the risk of seeing the Gospel Coalition administrators purge DeYoung&#8217;s thoughtful comments altogether from the Internet (they are currently available at <a href="http://www.facebook.com/notes/kevin-deyoung/can-pietism-and-confessionalism-be-friends-part-1-of-3/10150279700762785">his Facebook page</a>), I am preserving his piece here below.  Unlike the Gospel Coalition, where disagreements about polity, the sacraments, and even the eternal decrees, are not permitted to surface for the sake of fighting the Axis powers of inauthentic Christianity, I regard a blog as simply a place to discuss and kvetch.  (I imagine that several days worth of Prozac and Prilosec comes with the registration packet at the Gospel Coalition conference to keep the conferees in good humor and free from indigestion.)</p>
<p>Here is DeYoung&#8217;s post (reaction to follow):</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Can Pietism and Confessionalism Be Friends? (Part 1 of 3)</strong></p>
<p>by Kevin DeYoung on Friday, April 8, 2011 at 12:27pm</p>
<p>Those outside Presbyterian circles may not be aware (and may not care), but there has been a lot of discussion over the past few years about the dangers of pietism and how it differs radically from the older (read: better) model of confessionalism. Pietism, it is said, emphasizes dramatic conversions, tends toward individualism, pushes for unity based on shared experience, and pays little attention to careful doctrinal formulation. Confessionalism, on the other hand, is a more churchly tradition, with creeds and catechisms and liturgy. It emphasizes the ordinary means of word and sacrament and prizes church order and the offices. It is pro-ritual, pro-clergy, and pro-doctrine, where pietism, it is said, stands against all these things.</p>
<p>I am sympathetic with much of this critique of evangelical pietism. I agree with Darryl Hart’s contention in The Lost Soul of American Protestantism that American evangelicalism has tried too hard to be relevant, has largely ignored organic church growth by catechesis, has too often elevated experience at the expense of doctrine, has minimized the role of the institutional church, and has worn out a good number of Christians by assuming that every churchgoer is an activist and crusader more than a pilgrim. Confessionalism would be good tonic for much of what ails the evangelical world.</p>
<p>Concern for Confessionalism</p>
<p>And yet, I worry that confessionalism without a strong infusion of the pietism it means to correct, can be a cure just as bad as the disease. Is there a way to reject revivalism without discounting genuine revival in the Great Awakening? Can I like Machen and Whitefield? Is there a way to say, “Yes, the church has tried too hard to Christianize every area of life” while still believing that our private faith should translate into public action? Hart argues that after revivalism Christian devotion was no longer limited to “formal church activities on Sunday or other holy days,” but “being a believer now became a full-time duty, with faith making demands in all areas of life” (13). Given the thrust of the book, I think it’s safe to say Hart finds this troubling.</p>
<p>Further, Hart clearly sides with the Old Side in New England that opposed the Great Awakening, its emphasis on inner experience, and the insistence that ministers be able to give an account of God’s work in their hearts (32-42). While I agree wholeheartedly that experience does not a Christian make, I wish the strong confessional advocates would do more to warn against the real danger of dead orthodoxy. It is possible to grow up in a Christian home, get baptized as an infant, get catechized, join the church, take the Lord’s Supper, be a part of a church your whole life and not be a Christian. It is possible to grow up in an Old World model where you inherit a church tradition (often along ethnic lines), and stay in that church tradition, but be spiritually dead. There are plenty of students at Hope College and Calvin College (just to name two schools from my tradition) who are thoroughly confessional as a matter of form, but not converted.</p>
<p>I have no hesitation in commending confessionalism. My concern is that pietism–with its private Bible study, small group prayer, insistence on conversion, and the cultivation of “heart” religion–is frequently set against confessionalism. For example, Hart agues, “Confessional Protestantism invites another way of evaluating the making of believers. Its history demonstrates the importance of inheritance and the way that believers appropriate faith over a lifetime through the sustained ministry and counsel of pastors as opposed to the momentary crisis induced by the itinerant evangelist or the pressures of sitting around a fire at summer camp” (184). I like the first sentence, but why so negatively caricature the work of itinerant evangelists and the real conversions that may come at summer camp? I could be misreading Hart. Maybe he has no problem with any of these things. But when he says, “the central struggle throughout Protestantism’s history has been between confessionalism and pietism, not evangelicalism and liberalism” (183), I worry that committed Presbyterians will steer clear of anything that gets painted with a broad brush as “pietism.”</p>
<p>A Confessionalism with Deep Piety</p>
<p>We all feel and respond to different dangers (for example, see Ligon Duncan’s post and William Evans’ post, both of which I like). No doubt, revivalistic, hyper-experiential, adoctrinal, deeds-not-creeds, tell-me-the-exact-moment-you-were-born-again, go-conquer-the-world-for-Christ Christianity has a load of problems. If that’s pietism, then I want no part of it.</p>
<p>But I want a certain kind of confessionalism. I want a confessionalism that believes in Spirit-given revival, welcomes deep affections, affirms truth-driven experience, and understands that the best creeds should result in the best deeds. I want a confessionalism that believes in the institutional church and expects our Christian faith to impact what we do in the world and how we do it. I want a confessionalism that is not ashamed to speak of conversion—dramatic conversion for some, unnoticed conversion for many.</p>
<p>I want a confessionalism that preaches and practices deep piety. Whether this is labeled “pietism” or just part of our rich confessional tradition doesn’t matter to me. What matters is that we have ministers and parishioners who realize there is an external and internal dimension to the faith. I want Christians to know that going to church, hearing the word, reciting the creeds, singing the hymns, and partaking of the sacraments is not peripheral to the Christian life; it our lifeblood. And I also want Christians who do all those things every week to pray in “their closets,” look for opportunities to share the gospel with the lost, submit to Christ’s lordship in every area of life, and understand that true faith is not only a knowledge and conviction that everything God reveals in his Word is true; it is also a deep-rooted assurance” that not only others, but they too “have been made forever right with God, and have been granted salvation” (Heidelberg Catechism Q/A 21).</p></blockquote>
<p>Okay, I can&#8217;t resist one quick comment.  Why does piety have to be &#8220;deep&#8221;?  I understand that deep piety is good, and better than shallow piety.  But what company makes the piety meter to detect whether it is deep or shallow?  And what about those days when my piety is shallow?  Am I less elect or justified?  In other words, the word &#8220;deep&#8221; encourages an interest in me, not the gospel or God&#8217;s saving work.</p>
<p>This is not a reason to say, let&#8217;s have more shallow piety.  But it may be a reason to be careful about the words we use lest we fall prey to the pride of thinking our own piety is deep.  You&#8217;d think that folks who desire God and his glory might see how their piety standards nurture desires less theocentric and glorious.</p>
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