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		<title>How Extreme is 2K If. . .</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 18:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even Peter Leithart realizes that the Bible doesn&#8217;t give the kind of moral specificity that so many practically minded believers desire? The Bible rarely lives up to our ordinary standards of practicality. Page after page is given over to genealogical lists of obscure people whose only role is to be a human bridge between famous… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/05/how-extreme-is-2k-if/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even <a href="http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2012/05/what-is-the-bible-for">Peter Leithart</a> realizes that the Bible doesn&#8217;t give the kind of moral specificity that so many practically minded believers desire?</p>
<blockquote><p>The Bible rarely lives up to our ordinary standards of practicality. Page after page is given over to genealogical lists of obscure people whose only role is to be a human bridge between famous ancestors and notorious descendants. A third of Exodus is nothing but verbal blueprints for building the tabernacle and the first quarter of Leviticus contains detailed regulations concerning sacrifice. Two lengthy chapters of Leviticus diagnose the varieties of skin disease that cause impurity. It seems so tedious, and even when the Bible holds our interest, it doesnt seem very useful. Stories of plagues, exodus, and wars of utter destruction make for juicy reading, but how do they help one become virtuous? Why cant the Bible be more relevant? </p>
<p>While one can mine nuggets of moral instruction from the depths of the text, the Bibles apparent lessons are difficult, and not infrequently troubling. Abraham goes to Egypt, deceives Pharaoh about his relationship to Sarah, and leaves Egypt richer than ever. Whats the lesson-that lying pays? What moral do we draw from Moses killing of the Egyptian, or Joshuas slaughter of everything that breathed at Jericho? The more we read the Bible, the clearer it becomes that the book isnt a Hebraic Aesops fables. </p>
<p>Treating Scripture as a directory of moral lessons or compendium of moral rules assumes a constricted view of moral practice and reasoning. We dont pursue virtue simply by applying general principles to particular situations, and true morality is never simply obedience to commandments. Practical morality requires the ability to assess situations accurately, memory of our own past patterns of action and of others inspiring examples, and enough moral imagination to see how a potential tragedy might become the birthplace of unforeseen comedy. </p>
<p>Scripture is ethical paedeia, not an ethics manual.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or <a href="http://www.reformation21.org/blog/2012/05/on-the-correct-spelling-of-nam.php">Carl Trueman</a> acknowledges that expansive claims for kingdom work and redeeming culture run rough shod over the marks of the church?</p>
<blockquote><p>So what happens to church discipline when the means of grace start to be expanded beyond word and sacrament?   When we include art, or music or even sports?   I have no sympathy whatsoever with such an expansion; but, given the emphasis on these emerging in certain quarters and, indeed, the arrival of arts and sports pastors on the scene, I wonder if those who do in practice seem to see these things as means of grace have really thought through the practical consequences for church discipline.  Perhaps we have to stop people looking at pictures (unless it is something by Thomas Kinkade?), listening to anything but 70s disco music, and playing anything but American football?  Answers on  a postcard.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Of Radical Minorities and the (Dutch) Reformed Mainstream</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 15:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Matt Tuininga]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Nelson Kloosterman]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vocal defenders of 2k are in such short supply – though practitioners are everywhere in North America (it is the default position for Reformed Protestants, after all) – that I wondered about commenting on this. But when I read this, it seemed that some comment was in order. Matt Tuininga is a smart fellow and… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/05/of-radical-minorities-and-the-dutch-reformed-mainstream/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vocal defenders of 2k are in such short supply – though practitioners are everywhere in North America (it is the default position for Reformed Protestants, after all) – that I wondered about commenting on <a href="http://matthewtuininga.wordpress.com/2012/04/23/the-two-kingdoms-and-the-reformed-tradition/">this</a>.  But when I read <a href="http://pilgrimphilosopher.wordpress.com/2012/04/26/sensible-2kers-walk-among-us/">this</a>, it seemed that some comment was in order. </p>
<p>Matt Tuininga is a smart fellow and doing impressive work at Emory University on political theology.  His blog is worth reading.  In addition, he has defended 2k in the pages of <em>Christian Renewal</em> where Dr. K. has done his darnedest to associate 2k with all things profane.  (Aside from the kitchen sink, the only charge that Dr. K. has not hurled is is that of Communism.)</p>
<p>In a fairly recent piece for CR, Matt tried to explain the controversy over 2k as one between those who use its logic without even thinking about it and a minority that takes the position to extremes:</p>
<blockquote><p>The controversy arises when people appeal to the doctrine to question causes closer to home. For instance, some have used it to challenge the politicization of many evangelical churches directly involved in the political work of the Christian Right. Others have used it to challenge what they perceive as the excesses of Neocalvinism and its failure to distinguish the advancement of the kingdom of God through the work of the church with the work of cultural transformation.</p>
<p>Usually when I hear people opposing the two kingdoms doctrine today it is because they think it entails the abandonment of something like Christian education, or of a Christian worldview that guides the actions of Christians in every aspect of life. While there have been some recent two kingdoms proponents who do move in this direction, it is a massive theological and historical mistake to allow those people – who are most certainly in a minority – to define the two kingdoms doctrine and to control the way in which we speak of it. To do this ignores the importance the doctrine has held in establishing precisely the kind of Reformed biblical autonomy and church government that we value so highly and on which the integrity of the Reformed tradition depends.</p></blockquote>
<p>Since I have in fact used the logic of 2k to question the necessity (as in “thou shalt”) of Christian schools and to wonder about the German idealist pretensions of nineteenth-century critiques of liberalism (i.e., w-w), Matt’s comments would appear to implicate me.  Since he and I are friendly and recently had a pleasant chat at the Greenville seminary conference on Old Princeton, I doubt that Matt was necessarily singling me out.  Even so, I would like to see him amend his analysis by considering the following.</p>
<p>In addition to the important debates about church power – with Geneva (2k) and Zuirch (Erastian) representing the main options on questions of excommunication – was the even more basic question of the authority of Scripture (i.e. sola Scriptura).  Ministers could teach only what Scripture reveals, and churches could require only what the Bible commanded.  The doctrines and commandments of men, no matter how wise, pious, or well intentioned, could not bind a believer’s conscience.  For that reason, whenever the church evaluates the integrity of a believer’s profession, it must do so on the basis only of norms revealed in Scripture.  The church must have a “thus, saith the Lord.”  An effort like Adam’s instruction to Eve about not even touching the fruit of the tree won’t do.  Either you don’t eat the apple or you sin.  Touching it, looking at it, cutting it is not a command revealed by God.</p>
<p>All of the Reformed creeds begin with an affirmation of sola scriptura.  Here is how the Gallican Confession (1559) puts it:</p>
<blockquote><p>We know these books to be canonical, and the sure rule of our faith, not so much by the common accord and consent of the Church, as by the testimony and inward illumination of the Holy Spirit, which enables us to distinguish them from other ecclesiastical books upon which, however useful, we can not found any articles of faith. (Art. 4)</p></blockquote>
<p>For churches to require anything that the Bible does not require is akin to establishing an article of faith on a foundation other than the Bible.  Kuyper and his views about w-w’s or about education may be useful, though the way that places like the Free University turned out or that Christian w-w formation is playing out in numerous so-called Reformed day schools is not the best of testimonies to Kuyper’s wisdom.  Still, the point should not be missed.  Unless anti-2kers (and even some 2kers) can establish that Christian education and w-w are necessary as in an article of faith, then those who raise questions about Christian education and w-w are not radical or extreme.  They are only doing what the Reformers did by asking where the Bible, as opposed to influential saints, establishes the existing practices and teachings of the church.  In fact, it is those who establish a hierarchy of faithfulness based on tradition and look down on those who don’t follow the doctrines and commandments of men who are extreme.  </p>
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		<title>Religious Liberty Does Not Necessarily Include Feeling Affirmed and Empowered</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[spirituality of the church]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[diversity]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Religious liberty is much in the news thanks to President Obama&#8217;s national health care program and its requirements for funding abortion and contraceptive service. (For what it&#8217;s worth, the bigger story here has less to do with religious liberty or freedom of conscience and health insurance than it does with who died and gave Health… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/04/religious-liberty-does-not-necessarily-include-feeling-affirmed-and-empowered/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religious liberty is much in the news thanks to President Obama&#8217;s national health care program and its requirements for funding abortion and contraceptive service.  (For what it&#8217;s worth, the bigger story here has less to do with religious liberty or freedom of conscience and health insurance than it does with who died and gave Health and Human Services powers no king could have imagined.)  Outside THE beltway, religious liberty is also a topic for heated debate at Vanderbilt University.  There officials have put a number of religious student groups in a provisional status thanks to their policies on student leaders.  Christian groups, I suppose though cannot gather from <a href="http://www.vanderbiltreligiousfreedom.com/">one</a> of the concerned websites, bar homosexuals from assuming positions of leadership.  They may also exclude active unmarried heterosexuals.  But whatever their policies, Vanderbilt apparently wants all organizations open to all students.  If the student organizations do not comply, they may forego their lines of funding and places on campus. </p>
<p>Over at National Review, <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/294910/vanderbilt-university-insults-our-intelligence-david-french">David French</a> takes umbrage at what he sees as Vanderbilt&#8217;s attempt to intimidate Christian groups:</p>
<blockquote><p>The reality, of course, is that Vanderbilt is trying to force the orthodox Christian viewpoint off campus. The “nondiscrimination” rhetoric is mere subterfuge. How can we know this? Because even as it works mightily to make sure that atheists can run Christian organizations, it is working just as mightily to protect the place and prerogatives of Vanderbilt’s powerful fraternities and sororities — organizations that explicitly discriminate, have never been open to “all comers,” and cause more real heartache each semester for rejected students than any religious organization has ever inflicted in its entire history on campus. Vanderbilt’s embattled religious organizations welcome all students with open arms; Vanderbilt’s fraternities and sororities routinely reject their fellow students based on little more than appearance, family heritage, or personality quirks.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hard as it may be to understand why Vanderbilt would fail to see the value of the diversity of groups &#8212; instead of making them potentially all the same with similar sets of members &#8212; confessional Protestants may also sympathize with parts of the university&#8217;s actions.  As bad as blaming the victim is, can Christians at Vanderbilt really not imagine that all the social conservatism going on in the nation&#8217;s politics will barely leave a ripple in the lives of believers outside the political fray?  After all, if all of life is religious as evangelicals claim, then is a student Christian group on campus simply about devotion and worship or does it not also have political implications?  I suppose that Wheaton College refuses to recognize pro-choice student associations.  Is Vanderbilt any more biased, intolerant, or tyrannical if they identify conservative Christian student groups with Rick Santorum and the Republican base?  </p>
<p>Mind you, the officials at Vanderbilt could be more charitable and patient as liberals are supposed to be.  They could seek a compromise with the student groups &#8212; only prayer and Bible reading, not speakers for political topics.  But given their ideas about equal rights and tolerance, Vanderbilt&#8217;s policy should not be a surprise, especially in a climate of a politicized faith.</p>
<p>Another reason for being cautious about the situation is that so far &#8212; PTL &#8212; Christians in the United States have all the freedom they need to worship God.  They likely enjoy more freedom than Americans did at the time of the Constitution&#8217;s ratification (since some states still had established churches).  And compared to the rest of the world, Americans are as rich in religious freedom as they are in cash, vacations, and reality shows.  (In fact, it looks a tad indecent for Christians to complain about their rights in the U.S. when Christians throughout the Middle East are truly persecuted for the faith.)  The lesson for Vanderbilt&#8217;s students may be that the city of Nashville has many fine churches.  If students want to worship God, they have lots of options and should use them.  A confessionalist might add that worshiping God while part of a congregation overseen by officers and in fellowship with a wider communion is far better than using a parachurch group as an ecclesiastical substitute.  </p>
<p>In other words, as much as I don&#8217;t care for what Vanderbilt appears to be doing to the principles of diversity, I&#8217;m loathe to beat up on the university to defend parachurch organizations when plenty of congregations in Nashville would be glad to see the university&#8217;s students gather with them for worship.  </p>
<p>(Thanks to our correspondent inside THE beltway.) </p>
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		<title>Can Frame, the Baylys, Kloosterman, Wilson, and Rabbi Bret Really Object to This?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[David VanDrunen (whose Dutch heritage should count for more than it does among the nattering nabobs of neo-Calvinist negativism) recently conducted an interview with the folks at Credo Magazine. Two of his answers are particularly useful for explaining 2k (thanks to the Outhouse). The first: I like to describe the two kingdoms doctrine briefly as… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/03/can-frame-the-baylys-kloosterman-wilson-and-rabbi-bret-really-object-to-this/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David VanDrunen (whose Dutch heritage should count for more than it does among the nattering nabobs of neo-Calvinist negativism) recently conducted an interview with the folks at <a href="http://www.credomag.com/2012/03/20/interview-with-david-vandrunen-on-two-kingdoms-theology/">Credo Magazine</a>.  Two of his answers are particularly useful for explaining 2k (thanks to the <a href="http://confessionalouthouse.wordpress.com/2012/03/24/caught-between-the-scylla-and-charybdis/">Outhouse</a>).</p>
<p>The first:</p>
<blockquote><p>I like to describe the two kingdoms doctrine briefly as the conviction that God through his Son rules the whole world, but rules it in two distinct ways. As creator and sustainer, God rules the natural order and the ordinary institutions and structures of human society, and does so through his common grace, for purposes of preserving the ongoing life of this world. As redeemer, God also rules an eschatological kingdom that is already manifest in the life and ministry of the church, and he rules this kingdom through saving grace as he calls a special people to himself through the proclamation of the Scriptures. As Christians, we participate in both kingdoms but should not confuse the purposes of one with those of the other. As a Reformed theologian devoted to a rich covenant theology, I think it helpful to see these two kingdoms in the light of the biblical covenants. In the covenant with Noah after the flood, God promised to preserve the natural order and human society (not to redeem them!), and this included all human beings and all living creatures. But God also established special, redemptive covenant relationships with Abraham, with Israel through Moses, and now with the church under the new covenant. We Christians participate in both the Noahic and new covenants (remember that the covenant with Noah was put in place for as long as the earth endures), and through them in this twofold rule of God—or, God’s two kingdoms.</p>
<p>The “transformationist” approach to Christ and culture is embraced by so many people and used in so many different ways that I often wonder how useful a category it is. If by “transformation” we simply mean that we, as Christians, should strive for excellence in all areas of life and try to make a healthy impact on our workplace, neighborhood, etc., I am a transformationist. But what people often mean by “transformationist” is that the structures and institutions of human society are being redeemed here and now, that is, that we should work to transform them according to the pattern of the redemptive kingdom of Christ. I believe the two kingdoms doctrine offers an approach that is clearly different from this. Following the two kingdoms doctrine, a Christian politician, for example, would reject working for the redemption of the state (whatever that means) but recognize that God preserves the state for good purposes and strive to help the state operate the best it can for those temporary and provisional purposes.</p></blockquote>
<p>The second:</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t think the church has any different responsibilities in an election year from what it has at any other time. The church should proclaim the whole counsel of God in Scripture (which includes, of course, teaching about the state, the value of human life, marriage, treatment of the poor, etc.). But Scripture does not set forth a political policy agenda or embrace a particular political party, and so the church ought to be silent here where it has no authorization from Christ to speak. When it comes to supporting a particular party, or candidate, or platform, or strategy—individual believers have the liberty to utilize the wisdom God gives them to make decisions they believe will be of most good to society at large. Politics constantly demands compromise, choosing between the lesser of evils, and refusing to let the better be the enemy of the good. Christians will make different judgments about these things, and the church shouldn’t try to step in and bind believers’ consciences on matters of prudence. It might be helpful to think of it this way: during times when Christians are bombarded with political advertisements, slogans, and billboards, how refreshing it should be, on the Lord’s Day, to step out of that obsession with politics and gather with God’s redeemed people to celebrate their heavenly citizenship and their bond in Christ that transcends all national, ethnic, and political divisions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Since <a href="http://greenbaggins.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/chapter-1-part-one-the-law-gospel-distinction/">recent kvetching</a> about 2k included the charge that the outlook has little substance and is hard to define, VanDrunen&#8217;s brief and clear responses should put to rest that particular complaint (especially for those too lazy to read the books that keep piling up on the 2k shelf).  These remarks should also end criticisms of 2k since I can&#8217;t imagine how anyone could object to them. Actually, I can imagine that some will object but have a hard time thinking that the objections will be anything but perverse.</p>
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		<title>2K Cherries 2Hot 2Handle</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 14:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The allegedly controversial character of 2k theology has prompted Lane Keister over at Greenbaggins to cease his review of John Frame&#8217;s recent book. He has also decided not to allow any more discussions of 2k at his blog. I understand Lane&#8217;s decision. I also concede that my sarcasm has contributed to his decision. For some… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/03/2k-cherries-2hot-2handle/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The allegedly controversial character of 2k theology has prompted Lane Keister over at Greenbaggins to <a href="http://greenbaggins.wordpress.com/2012/03/21/ceasing-my-review-of-frame/">cease his review</a> of John Frame&#8217;s recent book.  He has also decided not to allow any more discussions of 2k at his blog.  I understand Lane&#8217;s decision.  I also concede that my sarcasm has contributed to his decision.  For some reason, mocking someone&#8217;s objections does not bring out the best in those who object.</p>
<p>At the same time, some objections do no deserve a reasonable response.  In fact, some who object to 2k have so made up their minds about the idea and its proponents that they will hear nothing in defense of the doctrine; they won&#8217;t even read the books written on 2k.  </p>
<p>From the perspective of this 2k advocate who also doubles as a historian, two undeniable historical developments exist that 2k critics won&#8217;t accept &#8212; sort of like denying that the North defeated the South in 1865; you may not like it, but how do you deny what happened at Appomattox?</p>
<p>The first fact is that the critics of 2k do not advocate the execution of adulterers or heretics.  This is pertinent because 2k critics fault 2kers for departing from Calvin and his holy Geneva.  The problem is that the Baylys, Rabbi Bret, Nelson Kloosterman (and his favorite disciple, Mark Van Der Molen), Doug Wilson, and anonymous respondents at Greenbaggins don&#8217;t advocate the laws in Calvin&#8217;s Protestant Jerusalem.  To the credit of theonomists, they sometimes do advocate the execution of adulterers and even recalcitrant adolescents.  But 2k critics do not have the stomach for all of Calvin&#8217;s policies and laws.  In which case, they have no more claim to Calvin as a standard for religion and politics than 2kers do.  Yet, here&#8217;s the key.  2kers are honest.  They actually admit that they disagree with Calvin.  They actually acknowledge the deficiencies of those who try to follow the Old Testament for post-resurrection civil governments.  </p>
<p>The second fact of cherry-picking proportions is that all of the Reformed churches that belong to the North American Presbyterian and Reformed Council have rejected the teaching of both the Westminster Confession and the Belgic Confession on the civil magistrate.  Not only have the mainline churches revised  these confessions, but so have the conservative churches.  (Ironically, Frame thinks I am unaware of the American revision of WCF in his review of <em>A Secular Faith</em>.  This is ironic because if Frame were as aware of the revision as he thinks he is, he would see that 2k is not outside the confession that Presbyterians profess.)  These revisions do not necessarily mean that every officer and member of these churches is an advocate of 2k.  It does mean that the modern Reformed and Presbyterian churches have come to terms with modern governments and the disestablishment of Christianity in ways inconceivable to Reformed Protestants in the 16th and 17th centuries.  And this means that the critics of 2k are either unaware of how little standing the original WCF chapter 23 or Belgic Art. 36 has in conservative Reformed churches. Or if they know of confessional revision and use the original documents to denounce 2kers, they are dishonest.  </p>
<p>Or perhaps they are <a href="http://turretinfan.blogspot.com/2012/03/darry-hart-on-republication-overture.html">simply foolish</a> (and impolitely so). One of the additional points I made about the importance of the Reformed churches&#8217; teaching on the magistrate was this:</p>
<blockquote><p>I have said it before and will say again, even before the Covenanters revised their Constitution and rejected the language of WCF 23.1 which Tfan affirms, even before this, the RPCNA explored a merger with the OPC which had already adopted the American revisions to the WCF. In other words, the RPCNA had a very different view of the civil magistrate than the OPC did and did not let that difference keep them from fraternal relations with the OPC. I do not see that same generosity or acknowledgement of orthodoxy for 2kers from 2k’s critics.</p></blockquote>
<p>The fanatic of Turretin&#8217;s <a href="http://greenbaggins.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/chapter-1-part-one-the-law-gospel-distinction/#comment-95439">response</a> was this: &#8220;Again, this is total ad hominem. Try to focus on your defense of E2k, not at criticizing your critics.&#8221;</p>
<p>How this is ad hominem I do not know, though my Latin is rusty.  But even if in some fifth or sixth definition of ad hominem my comment qualifies, I do not see how this point is beside the point.  2k critics treat 2k not only as if it is entirely outside the bounds of confessional orthodoxy, but they also react to 2k as if it is a threat to the gospel.  They believe it is antinomian, destroys Christian schools, and abandons society to relativism.  But the RPCNA, even when they still affirmed the original WCF 23, did not consider teaching on the civil magistrate a deal breaker.  Critics of 2k, like John Frame, do.  </p>
<p>And some people like Lane Keister wonder why 2kers like me become sarcastically indignant.  But for those wanting to keep the debate going, they are welcome here.</p>
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		<title>Wishing Evangelicals Would Leave Politics Alone</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before all of the anti-dualists and despisers of otherworldliness get riled up, the point of this post is not for evangelicals or any kind of Christian to abdicate their duties as citizens. Instead, it is that injecting religion into politics has neither helped politics nor aided religion. Two recent confirmations of this come from Mikelmann&#8217;s… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/03/wishing-evangelicals-would-leave-politics-alone/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before all of the anti-dualists and despisers of otherworldliness get riled up, the point of this post is not for evangelicals or any kind of Christian to abdicate their duties as citizens.  Instead, it is that injecting religion into politics has neither helped politics nor aided religion. </p>
<p>Two recent confirmations of this come from <a href="http://presbyterianblues.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/so-what-is-rick-santorums-religion/">Mikelmann&#8217;s post</a> on Rick Santorum&#8217;s appeal to evangelicals.  He notes that Santorum, some kind of conservative Roman Catholic, has had more appeal to Protestants than those in his own communion.  (Lyman Beecher and Josiah Strong are rolling in their graves.)</p>
<blockquote><p>So, whereas John F. Kennedy seemed to put to rest the idea that a Catholic President would be subservient to the Pope, Santorum has made it an issue all over again. So he must be the choice of Catholics, right? Not according to the New York Times:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Many Catholics take issue with Mr. Santorum’s approach to their faith. Mr. Santorum, polls show, has lost the Catholic vote in every primary contest so far, some by wide margins.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Putting this all together, the Catholics don’t support a Catholic who won’t separate his church from the state, but the Politico-Evangelicals do.  And that, my friends, is one more reason why politics is such a great spectator sport.</p></blockquote>
<p>The second comes from an <a href="http://theaquilareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=6733:twinterview-on-brits-abroad-comparison-of-derek-thomas-and-carl-trueman-could-they-have-anything-in-common&#038;catid=49:people&#038;Itemid=132">interview</a> with Carl Trueman and Derek Thomas in which they were asked about the challenges of living in the United States as British citizens.  Trueman replied in a way that should embarrass American Christians:</p>
<blockquote><p>The challenge is often knowing who are the genuine Christians and who are the mere cultural ones. It is not so much the case in Philadelphia but in many parts of the South, church is still the place to go to be seen and to set up business deals after the service.</p>
<p>My wife recently remarked to me that, in the UK, we rarely knew how friends at church voted. Politics simply was not part of the conversation and nobody presumed to assume that you voted one way or the other. There is still a certain overlap here between politics and theology, some aggressive manifestations of which can make life uncomfortable for a foreigner. The ‘culture war’ aspect of the church is one of the strangest aspects of the church here from a foreigner’s perspective.</p></blockquote>
<p>Again, none of this means that evangelicals should retreat from the public square, though it does suggest entering the public square as citizens rather than as believers would be a help.  But it does mean that until we clear up confusions like evangelicals supporting Roman Catholic candidates on Christian grounds and non-American evangelicals feeling estranged from evangelicalism&#8217;s politicized atmosphere, the folks who insist on the value of religion for public life have some work to do.  </p>
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		<title>The 2Ker&#8217;s Burden</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charles Murray&#8217;s book, Coming Apart, has been receiving a lot of attention. It is a book about the growing divergence between elites and average Americans, and shows that the wealthy and well educated are far more conservative in their way of life than many assume. Ross Douthat at the New York Times has been largely… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/02/the-2kers-burden/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles Murray&#8217;s book, <a href="http://www.randomhouse.com/book/119020/coming-apart-by-charles-murray">Coming Apart</a>, has <a href="http://www.philanthropydaily.com/?p=8381">been</a> receiving a lot of <a href="http://www.theamericanconservative.com/millman/2012/02/17/wages-sin-death/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=wages-sin-death">attention</a>. It is a book about the growing divergence between elites and average Americans, and shows that the wealthy and well educated are far more conservative in their way of life than many assume.  Ross Douthat at the <a href="http://douthat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/14/what-charles-murray-gets-right/">New York Times</a> has been largely favorable and at the conclusion of one of his posts, he writes something about traditional morality which suggests you don&#8217;t need to be a Christian or a social conservative to understand the value of good behavior.  </p>
<blockquote><p>Finally, Murray makes a very convincing case  . . . for the power of so-called “traditional values” to foster human flourishing even in economic landscapes that aren’t as favorable to less-educated workers as was, say, the aftermath of the Treaty of Detroit. Even acknowledging all the challenges (globalization, the decline of manufacturing, mass low-skilled immigration) that have beset blue collar America over the last thirty years, it is still the case that if you marry the mother or father of your children, take work when you can find it and take pride in what you do, attend church and participate as much as possible in the life of your community, and strive to conduct yourself with honesty and integrity, you are very likely to not only escape material poverty, but more importantly to find happiness in life. This case for the persistent advantages of private virtue does not disprove more purely economic analyses of what’s gone wrong in American life, but it should at the very least complicate them, and suggest a different starting place for discussions of the common good than the ground that most liberals prefer to occupy. This is where “Coming Apart” proves its worth: Even for the many readers who will raise an eyebrow (or two) at Murray’s stringently libertarian prescriptions, the story he tells should be a powerful reminder that societies flourish or fail not only in the debates over how to tax and spend and regulate, but in the harder-to-reach places where culture and economics meet.</p></blockquote>
<p>The 2k kicker is that the two-kingdom proponent has to say yes and no to this assessment (as Douthat, himself a Roman Catholic might admit).  The happiness that Murray describes and that Douthat lauds is good and valuable for people and societies this side of glory as part of God&#8217;s providential care for his creation.  But this happiness is not ultimate.  The happiness of Christianity is paradoxically available not only to the well bred and well off, but also to thieves hung on crosses.  And in some cases, human flourishing may actually prevent people from seeing their need for ultimate happiness.</p>
<p>This means that the danger of much conservatism, especially the kind promoted by neo-Calvinist inspired transformers and social conservatives, is to identify salvation with human flourishing.  If you make that kind of identification, you also make it hard for people who lead sinful lives (which includes faithful spouses and productive businessmen) to see their need for a happiness that is only available to those who will admit that their incomes, stable families, and civic involvement count for nothing when it comes to spiritual flourishing. </p>
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		<title>The Bible is Not Off Limits But Only Settles So Much</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two of Old Life&#8217;s regular voices, Zrim and Jed, are having an interesting discussion &#8212; in response to a post questioning the political machinations of the hallowed Bonhoffer &#8212; about whether 2kers may legitimately appeal to the Bible in their civic duties. Zrim argues that the Bible forbids civil disobedience while Jed questions whether a… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/02/the-bible-is-not-off-limits-but-only-settles-so-much/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two of Old Life&#8217;s regular voices, Zrim and Jed, are having an <a href="http://confessionalouthouse.wordpress.com/2012/01/26/westminster-on-bonhoeffer/#comment-12226">interesting discussion</a> &#8212; in response to a <a href="http://wscal.edu/blog/entry/bonhoeffer-and-assassination">post questioning</a> the political machinations of the hallowed Bonhoffer &#8212; about whether 2kers may legitimately appeal to the Bible in their civic duties.  Zrim argues that the Bible forbids civil disobedience while Jed questions whether a 2ker may employ the Bible in this way.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Rabbi Bret <a href="http://ironink.org/2012/02/neither-a-borrower-nor-a-lender-be-or-rabbi-bret-contra-darryl-gnostic-hart/">responds</a> to me that his case for Ron Paul and paleo-conservatism come directly from biblical teaching on the fifth and eighth commandments.</p>
<p>Several points of clarification seem to be in order.  First, 2kers do appeal to the Bible. They do so in their personal lives all the time.  They even appeal to the Bible &#8212; you know, &#8220;my kingdom is not of this world,&#8221; does not come from Aristotle &#8212; to argue for legitimacy of 2k.  Two-kingdom theology is thoroughly biblical (or at least tries to be) and its advocates don&#8217;t let differences between the kingdoms prevent them from seeing that &#8212; to borrow a line from the old E. F. Hutton commercials &#8212; when the Bible speaks, believers listen.  As I have repeatedly insisted in different forums, the eighth commandment compels me to question whether I should shop at Walmart or at Gelzer&#8217;s Hardware.  After Sam Walton is not my neighbor, the one whose welfare I am supposed to seek.  But Mr. Gelzer is.  The Bible gives some instruction about economics.  I should try to apply to my life.  I don&#8217;t see how that is inconsistent with 2k because it is not.</p>
<p>Second, this appeal to the Bible does not mean that I may require Rabbi Bret to shop locally or Jed to drink only the beers made by San Marcos breweries.  Individual believers need to respect the consciences and interpretations of other believers.  Some may eat meat offered to idols, and others won&#8217;t.  Both will appeal to the Bible.  But appealing to the Bible doesn&#8217;t settle whether believers will act in the same way about a host of matters.</p>
<p>Third, the critics of 2k &#8212; aside from uncharitably disregarding 2kers&#8217; appeal to Scripture &#8212; can&#8217;t seem to fathom the difference between the claims made by individuals about biblical teaching and those of church officers and assemblies.  For instance, because the Baylys&#8217; believe the Bible compels them to protest at abortion clinics, they believe that church assemblies must call all believers to similar forms of protest.  They even go a step farther and think that anyone who dissents from their application of Scripture disobeys the Bible.  (Wow!)  Meanwhile, folks like Rabbi Bret don&#8217;t seem to understand that his appeal to the fifth and eighth commandments for paleoconservatism leaves little room in the church for other perspectives, such as the Covenanters, libertarians, Democrats, or monarchists.  Yet, the Reformed creeds insist that church assemblies should address only matters that are spiritual and ecclesiastical.  In other words, when the church speaks as institutional church, she must have a biblical warrant.  And that explains why the creeds don&#8217;t address education, math, or economics.  The Bible doesn&#8217;t require God&#8217;s people to have a uniform method of delivering education, a base-ten system of math, or a commitment to free markets.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that the Bible does not solve the problems that critics of 2k think it does.  If you believe in Christian liberty, which is premised upon the idea that Christians have liberty in matters where Scripture is silent &#8212; from whether or not to meet for worship at 11:00 on Sundays to whether or not to drive an SUV &#8212; then appealing to the Bible will not yield the unity or uniformity in politics or culture that Bible thumpers tout. </p>
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		<title>Can We Get a Little Moral Clarity Here?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the light of Newt Gingrich&#8217;s recent surge in the polls, let&#8217;s see how the fortunes of the Religious Right are developing: A weak week ago Mitt Romney was leading in the polls and some even talked about his sowing up the nomination after South Carolina and Florida. Newt Gingrich&#8217;s ex-wife did an interview this… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/01/can-we-get-a-little-moral-clarity-here/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the light of Newt Gingrich&#8217;s recent surge in the polls, let&#8217;s see how the fortunes of the Religious Right are developing: </p>
<p>A <del datetime="2012-01-21T19:31:21+00:00">weak</del> week ago Mitt Romney was leading in the polls and some even talked about his sowing up the nomination after South Carolina and Florida.</p>
<p>Newt Gingrich&#8217;s ex-wife did an interview this week in which details of Newt&#8217;s infidelities were in full view.</p>
<p>South Carolina may be the most evangelical state in the union, prompting <a href="http://christianexodus.org/">some to call for Christians to migrate</a> to the Palmetto State.</p>
<p>Today, pundits are calling the South Carolina Republican primary a toss-up between Gingrich and Romney, despite Romney&#8217;s obvious practice of family values and Gingrich&#8217;s marital past.  </p>
<p>So where does this lead?  First, evangelicals rally behind Tim Tebow who disregards the fourth commandment.  Second, evangelical leaders tried to identify Rick Santorum, a Roman Catholic who doesn&#8217;t even number the Ten Commandments (let alone interpret them) as evangelicals do (or used to).  Now, apparently some evangelicals are willing to overlook the seventh commandment in favor of a conservative Republican.  </p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t care how evangelicals vote.  Voting is not an act of devotion and is a matter of Christian liberty.  But I do grow weary of the constant refrain of faith&#8217;s importance for politics when it is so obviously untrue, when a paucity of political ideas forces believers to wrap politics in Christian language.  All of us are hypocrites.  But not all of us make such a big deal of calling attention to our hypocrisy.  If the Religious Right wants the rest of America to take them seriously, they need to acknowledge and explain their selectivity.  I have advice &#8212; adopt 2k theology which means that you recognize the fallenness of the world and its politicians and so make the best of a bad situation.  But if you&#8217;re going to insist that religion forms the only adequate basis for morality, and if you&#8217;re going to demand political candidates who have a faith that produces the kind of character needed for holding public office, then you better have a ready explanation for your vote for candidates who openly violate the Ten Commandments. </p>
<p>And it would also be good to explain how your identification of political acts with Christian devotion is not a violation of the First Commandment.  Admittedly, Karl Barth had his problems as an interpreter of the Reformed tradition.  But he certainly recognized the damnable error of investing political parties with religious significance (beyond the indefinite meanings supplied by providence).   </p>
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		<title>Rich But Not Robust</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The word robust is overused and has become a cliche. People use it now to add emphasis without considering alternatives &#8212; like vigorous, energetic, profound. A good example of the overuse of robust comes in Andrew Sandlin&#8217;s endorsement for John Frame&#8217;s new book, Escondido Theology: Frame has lived to see a vocal segment of the… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/12/rich-but-not-robust/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word <em>robust</em> is overused and has become a cliche.  People use it now to add emphasis without considering alternatives &#8212; like vigorous, energetic, profound.  A good example of the overuse of robust comes in Andrew Sandlin&#8217;s endorsement for John Frame&#8217;s new book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Escondido-Theology-Reformed-Response-Kingdom/dp/1937300005">Escondido Theology</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Frame has lived to see a vocal segment of the robust, rich tradition in which he was educated transformed into a narrow sectarianism that anathematizes other orthodox, Bible-believing Christians; elevates theological and church tradition to near equal status with God s Word; and diminishes that Word as the norm for all of life and thought. This book is the agonizing jeremiad of an older prophet who sadly diagnoses a desiccating illness of a friend and offers a prescription for a wholesome healing.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is another way of saying that another book has come out attacking 2 kingdom theology as sectarian and outside the Reformed tradition.  I guess if you still think that Christian societies should exist &#8212; what to do with Roman Catholics, Jews, and Mormons is never really clear in this nostalgia for the Reformed nation- or city-state &#8212; then 2k theology may look bizarre.  At the same time, if you have lived in the United States with its religious diversity as long as John Frame has, and if you have been an officer in one of the churches that uses the revised Westminster Confession as Frame does, then you may not be shocked to find that some contemporary Reformed authors actually follow the teaching not of James Jordan or Greg Bahnsen but of the Reformed churches.  </p>
<p>But to bring up theonomists is to note a place at which the word <em>rich</em> applies.  It is indeed rich for Sandlin to plug a book that argues 2k theology is outside the mainstream of Reformed thought when the author, Frame, has not been exactly in the center of Reformed teaching about worship and the regulative principle (for starters).  It is also rich for Sandlin to suggest that 2k has anathematized other views when Frame is not too bashful in castigating former colleagues and present peers (in the Reformed churches).</p>
<p>And not to be missed on the rich front is that Frame had to find an obscure publisher, Whitefield Media Productions, for his blast against 2k.  Not even the gracious editors at P&#038;R, apparently, would take this screed.  Meanwhile, the idiosyncratic and sideline proponents of 2k have found editors at out of the way presses like Zondervan, Eerdmans, and P&#038;R.</p>
<p>I sure hope Frame does not believe in conspiracies.  </p>
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