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	<title>Old Life Theological Society &#187; John Calvin</title>
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		<title>24/7/52/12 Christians</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 17:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our relentless and erstwhile defender of all things Jonathan Edwards made a remarkable assertion in his interactions with other Old Lifers. He wrote: If confessionalists are just going to church on Sunday, affirming the confession, taking the sacrament and just waiting for Christ to come again, then they are being lazy. If confessionalists are not… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/03/2475212-christians/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our relentless and erstwhile defender of all things Jonathan Edwards made a <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/02/ben-franklin-patron-saint-of-applicatory-preaching/comment-page-2/#comment-45794">remarkable assertion</a> in his interactions with other Old Lifers.  He wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>If confessionalists are just going to church on Sunday, affirming the confession, taking the sacrament and just waiting for Christ to come again, then they are being lazy. If confessionalists are not seeking His glory in all things, then they are being lazy.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a useful observation that points to a basic and abiding difference between pietism and confessionalism.  Pietists keep alive that old fundamentalist ideal of full-time Christian service.  Unless a believer&#8217;s life shows religious affects all the time, then the pietist observer wonders about the authenticity of faith.  </p>
<p>Say, for instance, a father of four, keeps the Lord&#8217;s Day holy by going to two worship services, relaxing with his family, and leading his children in some catechism memorization.  Then during the week he holds down a respectable job that takes at least fifty hours of his time (especially given the commute; on some of his drive he does not listen to Christian radio but tunes in to NPR).  He also eats with his wife and children at breakfast and dinner, and leads family worship after both meals (though the morning devotions are abbreviated).  Meanwhile, on Wednesday night he enjoys friendship and camaraderie with the members of his bowling team.  Thursday nights he pays the bills (thanking the Lord for on-line banking).  Saturdays he catches up with home projects and plays a little basketball in the drive way with his three sons.  And through it all he tries to talk to his wife about life, the kids, the Republican primaries, and the current season of &#8220;Curb Your Enthusiasm.&#8221;</p>
<p>I ask you: is this man lazy?  Is he cold and indifferent to the &#8220;things of the Lord&#8221;?  And what if he follows Calvin on vocation in such a way that he is reluctant to point to all the ways that he is glorifying God (because he worries about pride and knows that sometimes he actually thinks more about what it takes to make a shot or hold a meeting than he does about whether basketball or business glorify God)?  </p>
<blockquote><p>The last thing to be observed is, that the Lord enjoins every one of us, in all the actions of life, to have respect to our own calling. He knows the boiling restlessness of the human mind, the fickleness with which it is borne hither and thither, its eagerness to hold opposites at one time in its grasp, its ambition. Therefore, lest all things should be thrown into confusion by our folly and rashness, he has assigned distinct duties to each in the different modes of life. And that no one may presume to overstep his proper limits, he has distinguished the different modes of life by the name of callings. Every man’s mode of life, therefore, is a kind of station assigned him by the Lord, that he may not be always driven about at random. So necessary is this distinction, that all our actions are thereby estimated in his sight, and often in a very different way from that in which human reason or philosophy would estimate them. There is no more illustrious deed even among philosophers than to free one’s country from tyranny, and yet the private individual who stabs the tyrant is openly condemned by the voice of the heavenly Judge. But I am unwilling to dwell on particular examples; it is enough to know that in every thing the call of the Lord is the foundation and beginning of right action. He who does not act with reference to it will never, in the discharge of duty, keep the right path. He will sometimes be able, perhaps, to give the semblance of something laudable, but whatever it may be in the sight of man, it will be rejected before the throne of God; and besides, there will be no harmony in the different parts of his life. Hence, he only who directs his life to this end will have it properly framed; because free from the impulse of rashness, he will not attempt more than his calling justifies, knowing that it is unlawful to overleap the prescribed bounds. He who is obscure will not decline to cultivate a private life, that he may not desert the post at which God has placed him. Again, in all our cares, toils, annoyances, and other burdens, it will be no small alleviation to know that all these are under the superintendence of God. The magistrate will more willingly perform his office, and the father of a family confine himself to his proper sphere. Every one in his particular mode of life will, without repining, suffer its inconveniences, cares, uneasiness, and anxiety, persuaded that God has laid on the burden. This, too, will afford admirable consolation, that in following your proper calling, no work will be so mean and sordid as not to have a splendour and value in the eye of God. (Institutes III.10.6)</p></blockquote>
<p>So how do we account for such different assessments of this ordinary believer?  More important, why can&#8217;t defenders of revivals be more charitable?   </p>
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		<title>Doubting God</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Shameless Selves Promotion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[John Calvin]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I passed a milestone today that may be worthy of comment. John Calvin (1509-1564), Jonathan Edwards (1703-1758), and J. Gresham Machen (1881-1937) &#8212; the three Johns &#8212; did not live to see their fifty-sixth birthday. In fact, Calvin and Edwards both died just short of their fifty-fifth birthday. I, on the other hand, made it… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/02/doubting-god/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I passed a milestone today that may be worthy of comment.  John Calvin (1509-1564), Jonathan Edwards (1703-1758), and J. Gresham Machen (1881-1937) &#8212; the three Johns &#8212; did not live to see their fifty-sixth birthday.  In fact, Calvin and Edwards both died just short of their fifty-fifth birthday.  I, on the other hand, made it to the beginning of my fifty-seventh year today, thus meaning that I share the same birthday as Michael Jordan (which is about the only thing we have in common despite my slow, white man attempts at basketball).  </p>
<p>All of this leads me to wonder if God knows what he is doing.  Okay, I&#8217;m no fan of Edwards but perhaps if had lived longer he could have straightened out the Connecticut River Valley and prevented the rise of Hopkinsianism, Taylorism, and the New Measures.  And surely, Calvin and Machen could have accomplished a lot more if they had lived into their seventies.  Yet, God in his infinite wisdom takes superior churchmen and theologians in their prime and allows also rans to meander on.  </p>
<p>The Lord works in mysterious ways.  (And if anyone attempts to reply with birthday greetings, to borrow a line from <a href="http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0161425/">Karl Hungus</a>, I&#8217;ll cut off their <del datetime="2012-02-17T19:16:41+00:00">johnson</del> comment).  </p>
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		<title>A Theological Wonder Who Was Wrong about the Church and Sacraments</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 12:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[All Frame and his students all the time this week. Pardon the obsession. Justin Taylor continues to aggregate with a post about the value of reading Calvin&#8217;s Institutes. He includes several quotations from J. I. Packer (though why gospel-co-allies should pay attention to Barth I&#8217;m not sure): The Institutes is one of the wonders of… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/12/a-theological-wonder-who-was-wrong-about-the-church-and-sacraments/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Frame and his students all the time this week.  Pardon the obsession.</p>
<p>Justin Taylor continues <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/12/28/why-and-how-to-read-calvins-institutes/">to aggregate</a> with a post about the value of reading Calvin&#8217;s <em>Institutes</em>.  He includes several quotations from J. I. Packer (though why gospel-co-allies should pay attention to Barth I&#8217;m not sure):</p>
<blockquote><p>The Institutes is one of the wonders of the world.</p>
<p>Karl Barth, the most influential theologian of the 20th century, once wrote: “I could gladly and profitably set myself down and spend all the rest of my life just with Calvin.”</p>
<p>Packer explains that Calvin’s magnum opus is one of the great wonders of the world:</p>
<p>&#8220;Calvin’s Institutes (5th edition, 1559) is one of the wonders of the literary world—the world, that is, of writers and writing, of digesting and arranging heaps of diverse materials, of skillful proportioning and gripping presentation; the world . . . of the Idea, the Word, and the Power. . . .</p>
<p>&#8220;The Institutio is also one of the wonders of the spiritual world—the world of doxology and devotion, of discipleship and discipline, of Word-through-Spirit illumination and transformation of individuals, of the Christ-centered mind and the Christ-honoring heart. . . .</p>
<p>&#8220;Calvin’s Institutio is one of the wonders of the theological world, too—that is, the world of truth, faithfulness, and coherence in the mind regarding God; of combat, regrettable but inescapable, with intellectual insufficiency and error in believers and unbelievers alike; and of vision, valuation, and vindication of God as he presents himself through his Word to our fallen and disordered minds. . . .&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This is the problem of contemporary &#8220;Calvinism.&#8221;  It abstracts Reformed theology from Reformed churches and Reformed ministry.  </p>
<p>Ironically, Taylor gives as a reason for reading Calvin that &#8220;has relevance for your life and ministry.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>It can be read as simply an exercise in historical theology, but it should also be read to further your understanding of God’s Word, God’s work, and God’s ways. Packer writes:</p>
<p>The 1559 Institutio is great theology, and it is uncanny how often, as we read and re-read it, we come across passages that seem to speak directly across the centuries to our own hearts and our own present-day theological debates. You never seem to get to the book’s bottom; it keeps opening up as a veritable treasure trove of biblical wisdom on all the main themes of the Christian faith.</p></blockquote>
<p>Does Taylor really mean to suggest that reading Calvin might lead to baptizing infants and joining a presbytery?  I doubt it. </p>
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		<title>Where&#8217;s Waldo Wednesday: No Cherry Picking (or Flipping)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that I&#8217;ve finished all six seasons of the &#8220;Larry Sanders Show,&#8221; which still comes highly recommended as arguably the funniest and most poignant treatments of celebrity in Hollywood, I am free to flip channels. (Those who haven&#8217;t seen the show need to understand that after his monologue, before going to commercial, Larry would say… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/12/wheres-waldo-wednesday-no-cherry-picking-or-flipping/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that I&#8217;ve finished all six seasons of the &#8220;Larry Sanders Show,&#8221; which still comes highly recommended as arguably the funniest and most poignant treatments of celebrity in Hollywood, I am free to flip channels.  (Those who haven&#8217;t seen the show need to understand that after his monologue, before going to commercial, Larry would say &#8220;no flipping.)  </p>
<p>But we still need someone like Larry to tell us Reformed debaters to stop cherry picking.  In basketball, a cherry picker is someone who lingers at one of the court &#8212; the offensive one (not in the sense of being objectionable for UK readers) &#8212; and never goes to the other end to play defense.  </p>
<p>A similar tendency exists in debates over union.  Lots of pro-unionists cite Calvin on union.  They hang out at the end of the court where Book III begins.  Not so many of these cherry pickers lurk at that end where Calvin talks about the sacramental significance of union.  But as for doing the hard work of looking beyond Calvin to other theologians who were Reformed churchmen, some would rather not do the laborious work of running from one end of the court to the other.  </p>
<p>Calvin&#8217;s support in turn becomes a warrant for declaring that other people who claim to be Reformed are not &#8212; hence assertions about Lutheranism, semi-Pelagianism, and the like.  Not only has the argument cherry picked from Calvin, but also from the history of Reformed Protestantism.  For the claim that someone is Reformed, Lutheran, Arminian, Baptist is not a biblical assertion but a historical judgment.  The Bible may reveal what it means to be Reformed.  But Reformed Protestantism emerged and developed not by finding a creed, polity, and liturgy written down in Scripture but by Reformed officers trying to figure out what the Bible teaches and applying that teaching in a host of circumstances from 1522 to the present.  </p>
<p>All of this is to say that the way forward in the debates about union &#8212; a question that emerged at the end of Mike Horton&#8217;s interview at Reformed Forum &#8212; is to let the historians decide.  Of course, this sounds self-serving (which it isn&#8217;t because I am not a historical theologian).  It is actually a realistic assessment of the most contested claims made by all parties in the discussions of union.  Everyone wants to be biblical and execute the best exegesis.  But interpreting the Bible is not the way you understand or define Christian past.  To know the Reformed tradition, you need to study the past.  That way you can see which theologians held what views, which churches professed what creeds, which synods or assemblies excluded what teachings as erroneous.  </p>
<p>Historical investigation will never satisfy the bibilicist (just ask John Frame).  But it will teach everyone to be more careful about the use of words like Reformed.  </p>
<p>The alternative is to abandon words like Reformed, Lutheran, Pelagian, and Baptist altogether.  &#8220;Hmmmmmmm, no denominations.&#8221;  Imagine a world separate communions.  I think John Lennon (and Frame) would go for that.  </p>
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		<title>Where&#8217;s Waldo Wednesday: Can You Handle Calvin on Union?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Frenchman&#8217;s discussion of union at the beginning of book three of the Institutes is slight compared to his treatment of union when explaining the Lord&#8217;s Supper. I have often wondered why the unionists who give so much weight to Calvin in discussing the doctrine are not leading a program of liturgical renewal that would… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/12/wheres-waldo-wednesday-can-you-handle-calvin-on-union/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Frenchman&#8217;s discussion of union at the beginning of book three of the <em>Institutes</em> is slight compared to his treatment of union when explaining the Lord&#8217;s Supper.  I have often wondered why the unionists who give so much weight to Calvin in discussing the doctrine are not leading a program of liturgical renewal that would included &#8212; at least &#8212; the administration of the Lord&#8217;s Supper weekly.  I also know that for most low church Protestants, Calvin&#8217;s views of the Supper are downright spooky.  They even led Charles Hodge, in debate with John Williamson Nevin, to conclude that Calvin was an aberration within the Reformed tradition.  </p>
<p>So to the end of fairness and balance, here are a few quotes from Calvin on union that seem to be unimportant compared to the task of micromanaging the ordo salutis:</p>
<blockquote><p>. . . the signs are bread and wine, which represent the invisible food which we receive from the body and blood of Christ. For as God, regenerating us in baptism, ingrafts us into the fellowship of his Church, and makes us his by adoption, so we have said that he performs the office of a provident parent, in continually supplying the food by which he may sustain and preserve us in the life to which he has begotten us by his word. Moreover, Christ is the only food of our soul, and, therefore, our heavenly Father invites us to him, that, refreshed by communion with him, we may ever and anon gather new vigour until we reach the heavenly immortality. But as this mystery of the secret union of Christ with believers is incomprehensible by nature, he exhibits its figure and image in visible signs adapted to our capacity, nay, by giving, as it were, earnests and badges, he makes it as certain to us as if it were seen by the eye; the familiarity of the similitude giving it access to minds however dull, and showing that souls are fed by Christ just as the corporeal life is sustained by bread and wine. We now, therefore, understand the end which this mystical benediction has in view—viz. to assure us that the body of Christ was once sacrificed for us, so that we may now eat it, and, eating, feel within ourselves the efficacy of that one sacrifice,—that his blood was once shed for us so as to be our perpetual drink. . . (IV.17.1)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>. . . I see not how any one can expect to have redemption and righteousness in the cross of Christ, and life in his death, without trusting first of all to true communion with Christ himself. Those blessings could not reach us, did not Christ previously make himself ours. I say then, that in the mystery of the Supper, by the symbols of bread and wine, Christ, his body and his blood, are truly exhibited to us, that in them he fulfilled all obedience, in order to procure righteousness for us— first that we might become one body with him; and, secondly, that being made partakers of his substance, we might feel the result of this fact in the participation of all his blessings. (IV.17.11)</p></blockquote>
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		<title>If You Can&#8217;t Stand the Polemic, Get Out of the Calvinist Kitchen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[An arresting little wrinkle in the current popularity of Calvinism among those who don&#8217;t baptize their infants and sometimes speak in tongues (and don&#8217;t belong to a Reformed church &#8212; redundant, I know), is the notion that Calvinists are mean. Justin Taylor is apparently on vacation and has bloggers filling in for him. Jared Wilson&#8217;s… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/08/if-you-cant-stand-the-polemic-get-out-of-the-calvinist-kitchen/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/08/Life-is-Beach.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/08/Life-is-Beach-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1145" /></a>An arresting little wrinkle in the current popularity of Calvinism among those who don&#8217;t baptize their infants and sometimes speak in tongues (and don&#8217;t belong to a Reformed church &#8212; redundant, I know), is the notion that Calvinists are mean.  Justin Taylor is apparently on vacation and has bloggers filling in for him.  Jared Wilson&#8217;s number came up on Wednesday and <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/08/03/dont-waste-your-calvinism/">he tried to explain</a> the stereotype of the &#8220;graceless Calvinist&#8221; (would Mr. Wilson actually refer to Americans of Polish descent in such a stereotypical manner?).  Such exhibitions of pride are exceedingly disappointing to Wilson:</p>
<blockquote><p>. . .gracelessness is never as big a disappointment, to me anyway, as when it’s found among those who call themselves Calvinists, because it’s such a big waste of Calvinism.  Why? Because it’s a depressing irony and a disgrace that many who hold to the so-called “doctrines of grace” are some of the most graceless people around. The extent to which your soteriology is monergistic—most Calvinistic nerds know what I’m talking about here—is the extent to which you ought to know that your pride is a vomitous affront to God.</p></blockquote>
<p>What is odd about this comment is that Wilson seems to show a similar gracelessness in calling out Calvinists.  (Hasn&#8217;t every husband figured out a euphemism for observing a weight gain in his wife?)  Wilson knows that gracelessness is wrong and so apparently doesn&#8217;t need to be gracious in pointing it out.  He does not seem to consider that some Calvinist polemics may stem from a sense of error as deeply felt as Wilson&#8217;s.  If Wilson knows that gracelessness is obviously wrong, maybe Calvinists also know that Arminianism is profoundly wrong.  In which case, Wilson attributes Calvinist gracelessness almost entirely to character, not the most flattering or gracious interpretations of Reformed orneriness.  </p>
<p>Also odd is Wilson&#8217;s perseverance in identifying with Calvinism, since the man to whom that moniker points was no slouch when it came to invective.  For instance, here&#8217;s an excerpt from Calvin on the relationship between the Old and New Testaments:</p>
<blockquote><p>. . . although the passages which we have collected from the Law and the Prophets for the purpose of proof, make it plain that there never was any other rule of piety and religion among the people of God; yet as many things are written on the subject of the difference between the Old and New Testaments in a manner which may perplex ordinary readers, it will be proper here to devote a special place to the better and more exact discussion of this subject. This discussion, which would have been most useful at any rate, has been rendered necessary by that monstrous miscreant, Servetus, and some madmen of the sect of the Anabaptists, who think of the people of Israel just as they would do of some herd of swine, absurdly imagining that the Lord gorged them with temporal blessings here, and gave them no hope of a blessed immortality. Let us guard pious minds against this pestilential error, while we at the same time remove all the difficulties which are wont to start up when mention is made of the difference between the Old and the New Testaments. By the way also, let us consider what resemblance and what difference there is between the covenant which the Lord made with the Israelites before the advent of Christ, and that which he has made with us now that Christ is manifested. (Institutes II.10.1)</p></blockquote>
<p>Hide the Anabaptists and their unbaptized children.</p>
<p>Of course, we could chalk this type of polemic up to the parlance of Calvin&#8217;s time, when such vituperation was common in the academy and the church.  But if that&#8217;s the case, why does Wilson not give modern-day Calvinists a similar benefit of the doubt?  He concedes that other groups of believers exhibit gracelessness.  And if he watches CNN or Fox News, he may also become familiar with invective in the culture at large, all of which might suggest that Calvinists don&#8217;t have a corner on meanness.    </p>
<p>Or maybe if the young Calvinists actually read Calvin, they would come to understand that some doctrines and practices really are worthy of polemics, and some faulty ideas and forms of devotion really are harmful.  </p>
<p>Either way, it is clearly odd to identify with Calvin who was capable of getting agitated and then object to Calvinists when they become animated.  Calvinism would appear to be the wrong label.  Again, why not Particular Baptist?</p>
<p>I could take some comfort from Wilson&#8217;s explanation of Calvinistic gracelessness:</p>
<blockquote><p>. . . the problem is not the Reformed theology, as many of my Arminian friends will charge; it’s not the Calvinism. No, the problem is gospel wakefulness (which crosses theological systems and traditions), or the lack thereof. A joyless Calvinist knows the mechanics of salvation (probably). But he is like a guy who knows the ins and outs of a car engine and how the car runs. He can take it apart and put it back together. He knows what each part does and how it does it. A graceless Calvinist is like a guy who knows how a car works but has never driven through the countryside in the warm spring air with the top down and the wind blowing through his hair.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a curious analogy since it suggests that nice Calvinists conceive of the Christian life as a joy ride.  This is not exactly the way that Calvin thought of our life in this world, which he likened to being on look out at a sentry post.  But jarring analogies aside, what happens to the guy with the wind-blown hair when the universal joint goes on his Thunderbird?  Or a little less dramatic, does the fellow who likes to take the car out for rides through the country need to worry about filling up the tank (or even about the environmental consequences of fossil fuel)?  Maybe Wilson&#8217;s analogy is entirely apt.  The young and restless ones don&#8217;t want to be bothered with fixing cars or refilling the tank, and as stereotypical youngsters they regard parents who say that teens should attend to these things are mean.  That difference might go along way to explaining the difference between a gospel coalition and a Reformed communion.</p>
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		<title>Sometimes the Prayer Book Just Makes Sense (sorry for having the word “just” so close to the thought of praying)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 16:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those who resist watching videos like the one posted earlier today from &#8220;King of the Hill,&#8221; here is the text of Bobby’s prayer, which is a brilliant illustration of the enormity that happens when trying to put sober truths into vulgar words. I want to give a shout out to the man that makes… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/06/sometimes-the-prayer-book-just-makes-sense-sorry-for-having-the-word-%e2%80%9cjust%e2%80%9d-so-close-to-the-thought-of-praying/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/06/bobby-hill.jpeg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/06/bobby-hill-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1076" /></a>For those who resist watching videos like the one posted earlier today from &#8220;King of the Hill,&#8221; here is the text of Bobby’s prayer, which is a brilliant illustration of the enormity that happens when trying to put sober truths into vulgar words.</p>
<blockquote><p>I want to give a shout out to the man that makes it all happen.  Props be to you for this most bountiful meal that’s before us. Okay, check it.  God, you got skills.  You represent in these vegetables and in this napkin and in the dirt that grows the grains that makes the garlic bread sticks that are on this table today.  Yes.  Yes.  Thanks, J-man.  Peace.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, Reformed Protestants don’t need to go the Anglicans to read prayers before meals.  Most of the older psalter-hymnals of the Dutch Reformed churches include liturgical resources at the back of the book that reproduce prayers, many of them attributed to Calvin, for public worship, ecclesiastical assemblies, and family devotion.  The following is the prayer for before a meal.  At the risk of offending contemporary worship leaders, I’d argue this is, like “Of the Father’s Love Begotten” is a better hymn than “Shine, Jesus, Shine,” a better prayer than Bobby’s. </p>
<blockquote><p>Almighty God, faithful Father, You have made the world and uphold it by Your powerful word.  You did provide Israel in the desert with food from on high.  Will You also bless us, Your humble servants, and renew our strength by these gifts, which, through our Lord Jesus Christ, we have received from Your bountiful Fatherly hand.  Give that we may use them with moderation.  Help us to put them to use in a life devoted to You and Your service.  May we thus acknowledge that You are our Father and Source of all good things.  Grant also that at all times we may long for the lasting food of Your Word.  May we thus be nourished to everlasting life, which You have prepared for us by the precious blood of Jesus Christ, Your Son, our Savior, in whose name we pray.  Amen.</p></blockquote>
<p>One additional advantage of Calvin’s prayer over Bobby’s is that the Frenchman’s thanksgiving is not blasphemous.  </p>
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		<title>Two-Kingdom Tuesday: How Can You Not Be 2K If You Are Spirituality of the Church?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 18:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Calvin makes it easy; you only have to get over the National Covenant, Kuyper, Bahnsen, and Wilson: My kingdom is not of this world. By these words he acknowledges that he is a king, but, so far as was necessary to prove his innocence, he clears himself of the calumny; for he declares, that there… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/04/two-kingdom-tuesday-how-can-you-not-be-2k-if-you-are-spirituality-of-the-church/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
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<blockquote><p><em>My kingdom is not of this world.</em> By these words he acknowledges that he is a king, but, so far as was necessary to prove his innocence, he clears himself of the calumny; for he declares, that there is no disagreement between his kingdom and political government or order; as if he had said, “I am falsely accused, as if I had attempted to produce a disturbance, or to make a revolution in public affairs. I have preached about the kingdom of God; but that is spiritual, and, therefore, you have no right to suspect me of aspiring to kingly power.” This defense was made by Christ before Pilate, but the same doctrine is useful to believers to the end of the world; for if the kingdom of Christ were earthly, it would be frail and changeable, because the fashion of this world passeth away, (1 Corinthians 7:31;) but now, since it is pronounced to be heavenly, this assures us of its perpetuity. Thus, should it happen, that the whole world were overturned, provided that our consciences are always directed to the kingdom of Christ, they will, nevertheless, remain firm, not only amidst shakings and convulsions, but even amidst dreadful ruin and destruction. If we are cruelly treated by wicked men, still our salvation is secured by the kingdom of Christ, which is not subject to the caprice of men. In short, though there are innumerable storms by which the world is continually agitated, the kingdom of Christ, in which we ought to seek tranquillity, is separated from the world.</p>
<p>We are taught, also, what is the nature of this kingdom; for if it made us happy according to the flesh, and brought us riches, luxuries, and all that is desirable for the use of the present life, it would smell of the earth and of the world; but now, though our condition be apparently wretched, still our true happiness remains unimpaired. We learn from it, also, who they are that belong to this kingdom; those who, having been renewed by the Spirit of God, contemplate the heavenly life in holiness and righteousness. Yet it deserves our attention, likewise, that it is not said, that the kingdom of Christ is not in this world; for we know that it has its seat in our hearts, as also Christ says elsewhere, The kingdom of God is within you, (Luke 17:21.) But, strictly speaking, the kingdom of God, while it dwells in us, is a stranger to the world, because its condition is totally different. </p>
<p><em>My servants would strive.</em> He proves that he did not aim at an earthly kingdom, because no one moves, no one takes arms in his support; for if a private individual lay claim to royal authority, he must gain power by means of seditious men. Nothing of this kind is seen in Christ; and, therefore, it follows that he is not an earthly king.</p>
<p>But here a question arises, Is it not lawful to defend the kingdom of Christ by arms? For when Kings and Princes are commanded to kiss the Son of God, (Psalm 2:10-12) not only are they enjoined to submit to his authority in their private capacity, but also to employ all the power that they possess, in defending the Church and maintaining godliness. </p>
<p>I answer, first, they who draw this conclusion, that the doctrine of the Gospel and the pure worship of God ought not to be defended by arms, are unskillful and ignorant reasoners; for Christ argues only from the facts of the case in hand, how frivolous were the calumnies which the Jews had brought against him. </p>
<p>Secondly, though godly kings defend the kingdom of Christ by the sword, still it is done in a different manner from that in which worldly kingdoms are wont to be defended; for the kingdom of Christ, being spiritual, must be founded on the doctrine and power of the Spirit. In the same manner, too, its edification is promoted; for neither the laws and edicts of men, nor the punishments inflicted by them, enter into the consciences. Yet this does not hinder princes from accidentally defending the kingdom of Christ; partly, by appointing external discipline, and partly, by lending their protection to the Church against wicked men. It results, however, from the depravity of the world, that the kingdom of Christ is strengthened more by the blood of the martyrs than by the aid of arms. (Calvin&#8217;s Commentary on John 18)</p></blockquote>
<p>Important to notice is Calvin’s otherworldliness.  The kingdom is not in this world, but it is in believers’ hearts.  And it comes not through laws or enforcement of legislation, or clever policy, but by the word and Spirit.  If magistrates assist the kingdom of Christ it not because of law or enforcement because Christ’s kingdom is spiritual, and therefore different from the rule of kings.  </p>
<p>This would also mean that all those people who cite Calvin and his godly regime in Geneva, like the Baylys, Dr. Kloosterman, and Rabbi Bret are missing the point.  Calvin even calls arguments like their “ignorant and unskillful.  God’s kingdom is not earthly.  And efforts to make this world heavenly are just one more example of immanentizing the eschaton.</p>
<p>I would have thought that differentiation of Christ’s rule from earthly regimes would appeal to the Vossian contingent.  I wonder when will they ever come over to the 2k side.  2kers won’t bite, at least not physically.</p>
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		<title>Kuyperians and Theonomists, Say &#8220;Hello&#8221; to the Old School Presbyterians</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I continue to be amazed by the decibels of hostility and venom heaped upon 2k. From bloggers like Nelson Kloosterman, James K. A. Smith, David Koyzis, Doug Wilson, Steven Wedgeworth, Rabbi Bret and the Bayly Bros., to your average and pseudonymous commenters at various Reformed blogs, many Reformed Protestants and evangelicals believe that 2k theology… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/02/kuyperians-and-theonomists-say-hello-to-the-old-school-presbyterians/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/02/dabney.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/02/dabney.jpg" alt="" width="129" height="127" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-961" /></a>I continue to be amazed by the decibels of hostility and venom heaped upon 2k.  From bloggers like <a href="http://auxesis.net/kloosterman/two_kingdoms_review.php"> Nelson Kloosterman</a>, <a href="http://forsclavigera.blogspot.com/2010/12/whence-whither-american-presbyterianism.html">James K. A. Smith</a>, <a href="http://www.cardus.ca/comment/article/2020/">David Koyzis</a>, <a href="http://www.canonwired.com/ask-doug/2k-theology/">Doug Wilson</a>, <a href="http://wedgewords.wordpress.com/2010/06/21/two-kingdoms-and-neo-calvinism-of-a-different-sort/">Steven Wedgeworth</a>, <a href="http://ironink.org/index.php?blog=1&amp;title=calvin_on_the_abiding_validity_of_the_ge&amp;more=1&amp;c=1&amp;tb=1&amp;pb=1#trackbacks">Rabbi Bret</a> and the <a href="http://www.baylyblog.com/2011/02/tim-wthanks-to-many-joel-northrup-wrestles-for-linn-mar-high-school-in-marion-iowa-wrestlings-big-in-iowa-something-li.html#more">Bayly Bros</a>., to your <a href="http://greenbaggins.wordpress.com/2011/02/05/new-new-warrior-children-thread/#comment-86204">average and pseudonymous commenters</a> at various Reformed blogs, many Reformed Protestants and evangelicals believe that 2k theology is either foreign because it is Lutheran or unbiblical because it exempts Godâ€™s law from part of life and nurtures dualism.  </p>
<p>But for anyone who has spent time with Old School Presbyterians and Old Princeton Seminary, 2k feels comfortable like an old shoe, and thatâ€™s because one of the Old Schoolâ€™s hallmark doctrines, the spirituality of the church, is basically the Presbyterian version of 2k.  </p>
<p>David Coffin, pastor of New Hope Church (PCA) in Fairfax, Virginia, recently preached on the doctrine of the spirituality of the church.  A link to the first sermon is <a href="http://newhopefairfax.org/resources/sermons-to-hear">here</a>.  It is well worth hearing and filled with numerous quotations that neo-Calvinists and their theological cousins, theonomists, Federal Visionaries, and Erastians, have yet to fit into their schemes of denying dualism and making Christ Lord of every square inch, like the following from Calvin, who is commenting on Christâ€™s response to a request to settle a property dispute between two brothers (Luke 12:13): </p>
<blockquote><p>Our Lord, when requested to undertake the office of dividing an inheritance, refuses to do so. Now as this tended to promote brotherly harmony, and as Christâ€™s office was, not only to reconcile men to God, but to bring them into a state of agreement with one another, what hindered him from settling the dispute between the two brothers? There appear to have been chiefly two reasons why he declined the office of a judge. First, as the Jews imagined that the Messiah would have an earthly kingdom, he wished to guard against doing any thing that might countenance this error. If they had seen him divide inheritances, the report of that proceeding would immediately have been circulated. Many would have been led to expect a carnal redemption, which they too ardently desired; and wicked men would have loudly declared, that he was effecting a revolution in the state, and overturning the Roman Empire. Nothing could be more appropriate, therefore, than this reply, by which all would be informed, that the kingdom of Christ is spiritual. . . . </p>
<p>Secondly, our Lord intended to draw a distinction between the political kingdoms of this world and the government of his Church; for he had been appointed by the Father to be a Teacher, who should â€œdivide asunder, by the sword of the word, the thoughts and feelings, and penetrate into the souls of men, (Hebrews 4:12,)â€ but was not a magistrate to divide inheritances. This condemns the robbery of the Pope and his clergy, who, while they give themselves out to be pastors of the Church, have dared to usurp an earthly and secular jurisdiction, which is inconsistent with their office; for what is in itself lawful may be improper in certain persons. . . . </p></blockquote>
<p>P.S. If Dutch-American Calvinists want to write off nineteenth-century American Presbyterians, fine.  But donâ€™t be surprised if those Presbyterians descendants remind you that it was the Presbyterians at Princeton that domesticated Kuyper and Vos for American Protestants.  Without Benjamin Warfield, Abraham Kuyper and Geerhardus Vos would still be available only in Dutch.</p>
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		<title>Forensic Friday: Making the World Safe for the Governmental Theory of the Atonement</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 04:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After going on for thousands of comments with theonomic critics of 2k theology, I now have a better sense for why the governmental theory of the atonement is plausible to some Christians. Whenever I teach about New School Presbyterian theology, and its toleration if not advocacy of the governmental view, I joke with students that… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/02/forensic-friday-making-the-world-safe-for-the-governmental-theory-of-the-atonement/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/02/law-and-order-uk1.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/02/law-and-order-uk1.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="150" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-955" /></a>After <a href="http://greenbaggins.wordpress.com/2010/12/22/the-resurrection-of-machens-warrior-children/">going on</a> for <a href="http://greenbaggins.wordpress.com/2011/01/26/new-warrior-children-thread/#comment-85058">thousands</a> of <a href="http://greenbaggins.wordpress.com/2011/02/05/new-new-warrior-children-thread/">comments</a> with theonomic critics of 2k theology, I now have a better sense for why the governmental theory of the atonement is plausible to some Christians.  Whenever I teach about New School Presbyterian theology, and its toleration if not advocacy of the governmental view, I joke with students that this outlook treats the cross of Christ as the greatest of all flannel graph lessons: by showing how horrid the punishment for sin is through the suffering and death of Christ, God upholds the righteousness of his law and show sinners how offensive their wicked acts are in his sight.  (For the birthday-challenged, flannel graphs were the Greatest Generationâ€™s Luddite version of power point â€“ a flannel board on which teachers and speakers could hang letters or images without even having to use Velcro.)</p>
<p>I have always found this view bizarre because it offers no comfort or consolation from the cross of Christ.  It simply reminds me of what I deserve and tells me to sit up, take notice (of all those laws), and fly right.  </p>
<p>The reason it now makes more sense as an appealing view to some Christians is that in their sometime wholesome reverence for Godâ€™s law and desire to see it prevail in public and private life, theonomists (at least the ones upbraiding me for licentiousness and atheism) do not seem to make much of forgiveness as a central theme in the Christian religion.  After all, if God is ultimately going to forgive sinners (ahem â€“ how would salvation be possible without this?), then the law diminishes in importance as the standard for Christian and pagan conduct.  Grace and forgiveness, such as that implicit in the vicarious atonement, seemingly take away incentive to follow Godâ€™s law.  But if the law is what is supreme in Godâ€™s character and in Scriptureâ€™s teaching, then looking at the atonement as a vindication of Godâ€™s righteousness makes sense and also minimizes the kind of antinomianism that might follow if people took mercy seriously.</p>
<p>To illustrate these different conceptions of law and their consequences for the atonement, I offer up a contrast between Charles Finney and John Calvin.  Granted, this may not be the fairest of fights, but Finneyâ€™s language (which is widely available online) is instructive for those Calvinists who are tempted to stress the law as central to Christianity and even to the gospel.  (Theonomists, Federal Visionaries, Bayly Brothers, Rabbi Bret, and Indiana-based Kuyperians, sit up, take notice and fly right.)</p>
<p>First, <a href="http://www.gospeltruth.net/1849-51Penny_Pulpit/500519pp_chr_magnfying_law.htm">Finney</a> on law and gospel:</p>
<blockquote><p>The intention of the Gospel is by no means to repeal the law. &#8220;Do we, then, make void the law through faith?&#8221; said the apostle; &#8220;God forbid; yea, we establish the law.&#8221; By his life and death, Christ honoured the law; and thus himself furnished the means of rebuking the rebellious lives of sinners. The spirit of the law pervades the Gospel, and they infinitely mistake the subject who suppose that the moral law is not part of the Gospel. This is the way to make Christ the minister of sin. This is to array Christ against the moral law; for how could he by abrogating the law make it honourable? This would be to weaken the law. Do not mistake me: I do not mean that men are to be saved by their own righteousness&#8211;that they are to be restored to happiness by the law, as the ground of their acceptance with God. I mean no such thing as this; but what I do mean is, that this is a condition of their forgiveness, &#8211;they must break off their rebellion, and become submissive and obedient to its authority. A man who has once violated a law can never be justified by it; this is both naturally and governmentally impossible. But there must be obedience to the law as a condition of forgiveness for past sins and offences.  (Finney, â€œChrist Magnifying the Law,â€ 1850) </p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, Finney really did say that forgiveness depends on obedience.  Holy bleep, Batman!</p>
<p>Next Calvin on law and gospel:</p>
<blockquote><p>The sum of the matter comes to this: The Old Testament filled the conscience with fear and tremblingâ€”The New inspires it with gladness. By the former the conscience is held in bondage, by the latter it is manumitted and made free. If it be objected, that the holy fathers among the Israelites, as they were endued with the same spirit of faith, must also have been partakers of the same liberty and joy, we answer, that neither was derived from the Law; but feeling that by the Law they were oppressed like slaves, and vexed with a disquieted conscience, they fled for refuge to the gospel; and, accordingly, the peculiar advantage of the Gospel was, that, contrary to the common rule of the Old Testament, it exempted those who were under it from those evils. Then, again, we deny that they did possess the spirit of liberty and security in such a degree as not to experience some measure of fear and bondage. For however they might enjoy the privilege which they had obtained through the grace of the Gospel, they were under the same bonds and burdens of observances as the rest of their nation. Therefore, seeing they were obliged to the anxious observance of ceremonies (which were the symbols of a tutelage bordering on slavery, and handwritings by which they acknowledged their guilt, but did not escape from it), they are justly said to have been, comparatively, under a covenant of fear and bondage, in respect of that common dispensation under which the Jewish people were then placed.  (<em>Institutes</em> II.11.ix)</p></blockquote>
<p>Now <a href="http://www.gospeltruth.net/1846ST/1846st_lec31.htm">Finney</a> on the atonement::</p>
<blockquote><p>7. An atonement was needed to inspire confidence in the offers and promises of pardon, and in all the promises of God to man. Guilty selfish man finds it difficult, when thoroughly convicted of sin, to realize and believe that God is actually sincere in his promises and offers of pardon and salvation. But whenever the soul can apprehend the reality of the Atonement, it can then believe every offer and promise as the very thing to be expected from a being who could give his Son to die for enemies.</p>
<p>An Atonement was needed, therefore, as the great and only means of sanctifying sinners:</p>
<p>Rom. 8:3,4. &#8220;For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.&#8221; The law was calculated, when once its penalty was incurred, to shut the sinner up in a dungeon, and only to develop more and more his depravity. Nothing could subdue his sin and cause him to love but the manifestation to him of disinterested benevolence. The atonement is just the thing to meet this necessity and subdue rebellion.</p>
<p>8. An Atonement was needed, not to render God merciful, but to reconcile pardon with a due administration of justice. This has been virtually said before, but needs to be repeated in this connection. (Lecture 31 from <em>Lectures on Systematic Theology</em>)  </p></blockquote>
<p>And Calvin on the atonement:</p>
<blockquote><p>. . . Christ appeared once for all to take away sin by the sacrifice of himself. Again, that he was offered to bear the sins of many (Heb. 9:12). He had previously said, that not by the blood of goats or of heifers, but by his own blood, he had once entered into the holy of holies, having obtained eternal redemption for us. Now, when he reasons thus, â€œIf the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself to God, purge your consciences from dead works to serve the living God?â€ (Heb. 9:13, 14), it is obvious that too little effect is given to the grace of Christ, unless we concede to his sacrifice the power of expiating, appeasing, and satisfying: as he shortly after adds, â€œFor this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of his death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance,â€ (Heb. 9:15). But it is especially necessary to attend to the analogy which is drawn by Paul as to his having been made a curse for us (Gal. 3:13). It had been superfluous and therefore absurd, that Christ should have been burdened with a curse, had it not been in order that, by paying what others owed, he might acquire righteousness for them. There is no ambiguity in Isaiahâ€™s testimony, â€œHe was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was laid upon him; and with his stripes we are healed,â€ (Is. 53:5). For had not Christ satisfied for our sins, he could not be said to have appeased God by taking upon himself the penalty which we had incurred. To this corresponds what follows in the same place, â€œfor the transgression of my people was he stricken,â€ (Is. 53:8). We may add the interpretation of Peter, who unequivocally declares, that he â€œbare our sins in his own body on the tree,â€ (1 Pet. 2:24), that the whole burden of condemnation, of which we were relieved, was laid upon him.  (<em>Institutes</em>, II.17.iv)</p></blockquote>
<p>Hereâ€™s a revelation: I prefer Calvin.  What is more, Calvin understands the Bible.  </p>
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