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		<title>Can Frame, the Baylys, Kloosterman, Wilson, and Rabbi Bret Really Object to This?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[David VanDrunen (whose Dutch heritage should count for more than it does among the nattering nabobs of neo-Calvinist negativism) recently conducted an interview with the folks at Credo Magazine. Two of his answers are particularly useful for explaining 2k (thanks to the Outhouse). The first: I like to describe the two kingdoms doctrine briefly as… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/03/can-frame-the-baylys-kloosterman-wilson-and-rabbi-bret-really-object-to-this/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David VanDrunen (whose Dutch heritage should count for more than it does among the nattering nabobs of neo-Calvinist negativism) recently conducted an interview with the folks at <a href="http://www.credomag.com/2012/03/20/interview-with-david-vandrunen-on-two-kingdoms-theology/">Credo Magazine</a>.  Two of his answers are particularly useful for explaining 2k (thanks to the <a href="http://confessionalouthouse.wordpress.com/2012/03/24/caught-between-the-scylla-and-charybdis/">Outhouse</a>).</p>
<p>The first:</p>
<blockquote><p>I like to describe the two kingdoms doctrine briefly as the conviction that God through his Son rules the whole world, but rules it in two distinct ways. As creator and sustainer, God rules the natural order and the ordinary institutions and structures of human society, and does so through his common grace, for purposes of preserving the ongoing life of this world. As redeemer, God also rules an eschatological kingdom that is already manifest in the life and ministry of the church, and he rules this kingdom through saving grace as he calls a special people to himself through the proclamation of the Scriptures. As Christians, we participate in both kingdoms but should not confuse the purposes of one with those of the other. As a Reformed theologian devoted to a rich covenant theology, I think it helpful to see these two kingdoms in the light of the biblical covenants. In the covenant with Noah after the flood, God promised to preserve the natural order and human society (not to redeem them!), and this included all human beings and all living creatures. But God also established special, redemptive covenant relationships with Abraham, with Israel through Moses, and now with the church under the new covenant. We Christians participate in both the Noahic and new covenants (remember that the covenant with Noah was put in place for as long as the earth endures), and through them in this twofold rule of God—or, God’s two kingdoms.</p>
<p>The “transformationist” approach to Christ and culture is embraced by so many people and used in so many different ways that I often wonder how useful a category it is. If by “transformation” we simply mean that we, as Christians, should strive for excellence in all areas of life and try to make a healthy impact on our workplace, neighborhood, etc., I am a transformationist. But what people often mean by “transformationist” is that the structures and institutions of human society are being redeemed here and now, that is, that we should work to transform them according to the pattern of the redemptive kingdom of Christ. I believe the two kingdoms doctrine offers an approach that is clearly different from this. Following the two kingdoms doctrine, a Christian politician, for example, would reject working for the redemption of the state (whatever that means) but recognize that God preserves the state for good purposes and strive to help the state operate the best it can for those temporary and provisional purposes.</p></blockquote>
<p>The second:</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t think the church has any different responsibilities in an election year from what it has at any other time. The church should proclaim the whole counsel of God in Scripture (which includes, of course, teaching about the state, the value of human life, marriage, treatment of the poor, etc.). But Scripture does not set forth a political policy agenda or embrace a particular political party, and so the church ought to be silent here where it has no authorization from Christ to speak. When it comes to supporting a particular party, or candidate, or platform, or strategy—individual believers have the liberty to utilize the wisdom God gives them to make decisions they believe will be of most good to society at large. Politics constantly demands compromise, choosing between the lesser of evils, and refusing to let the better be the enemy of the good. Christians will make different judgments about these things, and the church shouldn’t try to step in and bind believers’ consciences on matters of prudence. It might be helpful to think of it this way: during times when Christians are bombarded with political advertisements, slogans, and billboards, how refreshing it should be, on the Lord’s Day, to step out of that obsession with politics and gather with God’s redeemed people to celebrate their heavenly citizenship and their bond in Christ that transcends all national, ethnic, and political divisions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Since <a href="http://greenbaggins.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/chapter-1-part-one-the-law-gospel-distinction/">recent kvetching</a> about 2k included the charge that the outlook has little substance and is hard to define, VanDrunen&#8217;s brief and clear responses should put to rest that particular complaint (especially for those too lazy to read the books that keep piling up on the 2k shelf).  These remarks should also end criticisms of 2k since I can&#8217;t imagine how anyone could object to them. Actually, I can imagine that some will object but have a hard time thinking that the objections will be anything but perverse.</p>
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		<title>2K Cherries 2Hot 2Handle</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 14:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The allegedly controversial character of 2k theology has prompted Lane Keister over at Greenbaggins to cease his review of John Frame&#8217;s recent book. He has also decided not to allow any more discussions of 2k at his blog. I understand Lane&#8217;s decision. I also concede that my sarcasm has contributed to his decision. For some… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/03/2k-cherries-2hot-2handle/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The allegedly controversial character of 2k theology has prompted Lane Keister over at Greenbaggins to <a href="http://greenbaggins.wordpress.com/2012/03/21/ceasing-my-review-of-frame/">cease his review</a> of John Frame&#8217;s recent book.  He has also decided not to allow any more discussions of 2k at his blog.  I understand Lane&#8217;s decision.  I also concede that my sarcasm has contributed to his decision.  For some reason, mocking someone&#8217;s objections does not bring out the best in those who object.</p>
<p>At the same time, some objections do no deserve a reasonable response.  In fact, some who object to 2k have so made up their minds about the idea and its proponents that they will hear nothing in defense of the doctrine; they won&#8217;t even read the books written on 2k.  </p>
<p>From the perspective of this 2k advocate who also doubles as a historian, two undeniable historical developments exist that 2k critics won&#8217;t accept &#8212; sort of like denying that the North defeated the South in 1865; you may not like it, but how do you deny what happened at Appomattox?</p>
<p>The first fact is that the critics of 2k do not advocate the execution of adulterers or heretics.  This is pertinent because 2k critics fault 2kers for departing from Calvin and his holy Geneva.  The problem is that the Baylys, Rabbi Bret, Nelson Kloosterman (and his favorite disciple, Mark Van Der Molen), Doug Wilson, and anonymous respondents at Greenbaggins don&#8217;t advocate the laws in Calvin&#8217;s Protestant Jerusalem.  To the credit of theonomists, they sometimes do advocate the execution of adulterers and even recalcitrant adolescents.  But 2k critics do not have the stomach for all of Calvin&#8217;s policies and laws.  In which case, they have no more claim to Calvin as a standard for religion and politics than 2kers do.  Yet, here&#8217;s the key.  2kers are honest.  They actually admit that they disagree with Calvin.  They actually acknowledge the deficiencies of those who try to follow the Old Testament for post-resurrection civil governments.  </p>
<p>The second fact of cherry-picking proportions is that all of the Reformed churches that belong to the North American Presbyterian and Reformed Council have rejected the teaching of both the Westminster Confession and the Belgic Confession on the civil magistrate.  Not only have the mainline churches revised  these confessions, but so have the conservative churches.  (Ironically, Frame thinks I am unaware of the American revision of WCF in his review of <em>A Secular Faith</em>.  This is ironic because if Frame were as aware of the revision as he thinks he is, he would see that 2k is not outside the confession that Presbyterians profess.)  These revisions do not necessarily mean that every officer and member of these churches is an advocate of 2k.  It does mean that the modern Reformed and Presbyterian churches have come to terms with modern governments and the disestablishment of Christianity in ways inconceivable to Reformed Protestants in the 16th and 17th centuries.  And this means that the critics of 2k are either unaware of how little standing the original WCF chapter 23 or Belgic Art. 36 has in conservative Reformed churches. Or if they know of confessional revision and use the original documents to denounce 2kers, they are dishonest.  </p>
<p>Or perhaps they are <a href="http://turretinfan.blogspot.com/2012/03/darry-hart-on-republication-overture.html">simply foolish</a> (and impolitely so). One of the additional points I made about the importance of the Reformed churches&#8217; teaching on the magistrate was this:</p>
<blockquote><p>I have said it before and will say again, even before the Covenanters revised their Constitution and rejected the language of WCF 23.1 which Tfan affirms, even before this, the RPCNA explored a merger with the OPC which had already adopted the American revisions to the WCF. In other words, the RPCNA had a very different view of the civil magistrate than the OPC did and did not let that difference keep them from fraternal relations with the OPC. I do not see that same generosity or acknowledgement of orthodoxy for 2kers from 2k’s critics.</p></blockquote>
<p>The fanatic of Turretin&#8217;s <a href="http://greenbaggins.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/chapter-1-part-one-the-law-gospel-distinction/#comment-95439">response</a> was this: &#8220;Again, this is total ad hominem. Try to focus on your defense of E2k, not at criticizing your critics.&#8221;</p>
<p>How this is ad hominem I do not know, though my Latin is rusty.  But even if in some fifth or sixth definition of ad hominem my comment qualifies, I do not see how this point is beside the point.  2k critics treat 2k not only as if it is entirely outside the bounds of confessional orthodoxy, but they also react to 2k as if it is a threat to the gospel.  They believe it is antinomian, destroys Christian schools, and abandons society to relativism.  But the RPCNA, even when they still affirmed the original WCF 23, did not consider teaching on the civil magistrate a deal breaker.  Critics of 2k, like John Frame, do.  </p>
<p>And some people like Lane Keister wonder why 2kers like me become sarcastically indignant.  But for those wanting to keep the debate going, they are welcome here.</p>
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		<title>Ron Paul, Two-K, and Manliness</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rabbi Bret may be surprised to learn that he is a sissy because he is supporting Ron Paul. That is the testosterone filled conclusion of the Brothers Bayly who in a recent post have asserted that two-kingdom advocates and Ron Paul supporters share a similar trait &#8212; distaff cowardice. (I am not making this up.)… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/02/ron-paul-two-k-and-manliness/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rabbi Bret may be surprised to learn that he is a sissy because he is <a href="http://ironink.org/2012/01/is-voting-for-ron-paul-a-pursuit-of-societal-salvation/">supporting Ron Paul</a>.  That is the testosterone filled conclusion of the Brothers Bayly who in a <a href="http://www.baylyblog.com/2012/02/ron-paul-is-to-national-politics-what-r2k-is-to-the-salt-and-light-of-the-church-both-paulites-and-r2kites-have-never-seen-a.html#more">recent post</a> have asserted that two-kingdom advocates and Ron Paul supporters share a similar trait &#8212; distaff cowardice.  (I am not making this up.)</p>
<blockquote><p>Ron Paul is to national politics what R2K is to the salt and light of the Church. Both Paulites and R2Kites have never seen a battle they want to fight. So instead they come up with sophisticated reasons why Little Round Top is the wrong hill to defend and Colonel Chamberlain&#8217;s bayonet charge was over the top. The wrong man led the wrong troops in the wrong charge using the wrong weapons at the wrong time and the wrong location.</p>
<p>In fact, watch these men closely and you find the only battle they&#8217;re willing to fight is the battle opposing battles. But of course, I use the words &#8216;battle&#8217; and &#8216;fight&#8217; quite loosely because both require courage. I don&#8217;t write this to demean them, but so readers will see the connection between their techniques, commitments, and character.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re the skinny boy in the corner of the schoolyard shouting &#8220;Nanny nanny boo-boo&#8221; at the real boys over on the baseball diamond trying to catch the ball, swing the bat, hit something, and run. Over in the corner of the playground with his back to the wall is R2K&#8217;s favorite cultural icon, Woody Allen, making jokes about how he refuses to play baseball because baseball is a stupid game with stupid rules played by stupid boys. But of course, he did try to play baseball once, and when the ball was flying toward his face, he misjudged where to put his mitt, he took his eye off the ball, and the ball hit him square in the face, and it really really hurt. He&#8217;s never forgotten it and now he makes fun of boys who play baseball.</p>
<p>All the boys who play baseball think he&#8217;s a coward, but he&#8217;s always surrounded by the other boys who got punched in the face with a baseball and decided never to play baseball again. They laugh at his jokes. Then there are the girls who never wanted to play baseball and don&#8217;t know a coward when they see one, and they think he&#8217;s kinda cute and sweet. They pity him for being an outcast and one day that pity will cause them to allow him to kiss them.</p></blockquote>
<p>On the level of politics, the Baylys are clueless and always have been since they <a href="http://www.baylyblog.com/2011/11/this-pic-ran-in-the-friday-october-13-1972-issue-of-the-trib-under-the-headline-mcgovern-tries-for-dupage-converts-presid.html">supported George McGovern</a> in 1972 (though Ron Paul is closer to McGovern on foreign policy than the Baylys know &#8212; talk about not fighting battles).  They are less interested in resisting tyranny than they are in establishing a regime of justice and morality.  They don&#8217;t mind ignoring the distinct responsibilities of institutions and the separate spheres established by documents like constitutions and confessions in order to apply their moral truths justly everywhere.  This puts their moral idealism much closer to the French Revolution than to the American, and makes their he-mannish bravery sound more like Robespierre than Madison.  To justify the reign of terror, Robespierre wrote: &#8220;Terror is only justice prompt, sever, and inflexible &#8212; it is then an emanation of virtue; it is less a distinct principle than a natural consequence of the general principle of democracy, applied to the most pressing wants of the country.&#8221;  Manly?  Sure.  Cruel?  You bet.  Despotic?  No doubt.  </p>
<p>On the level of biblical interpretation, I continue to wonder where their <a href="http://www.baylyblog.com/2012/02/getting-men-to-sing-in-worship.html#more">unrivaled affirmation of macho Christianity</a> finds a warrant in Scripture.  Was Jesus manly when he submitted to an unjust verdict and execution?  Was our Lord feminized when he told his followers to forgive seventy-times-seven?  Was Paul light in the loafers when he counseled moderation, self-control, and submission to authorities? </p>
<p>I get it.  Jesus is going to return and will judge sins and the sinners who commit them.  But the Baylys&#8217; antics suggests yet another form of immanentizing the eschaton &#8212; a rush to judge, confront, and topple in the name of Christ here and now.  They don&#8217;t seem to understand the inverse logic of the gospel.  Christ defeats Satan by dying.  The kingdom of grace beats the kingdom of Satan by forgiving sins.  I don&#8217;t particularly understand what chromosomes have to do with this.  </p>
<p>Postscript: I linked to one of the Baylys&#8217; posts about men singing and how the church needs hymns on judgment and justice triumphing over wicked men for men to sing with gusto.  This points to another part of the Baylys&#8217; errors.  They are also clueless culturally.  They have never witnessed big, beefy men &#8212; namely, <a href="http://youtu.be/DQy4xnKgt28">Welsh rugby players</a> &#8212; while singing their national anthem.  </p>
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		<title>The Bible is Not Off Limits But Only Settles So Much</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two of Old Life&#8217;s regular voices, Zrim and Jed, are having an interesting discussion &#8212; in response to a post questioning the political machinations of the hallowed Bonhoffer &#8212; about whether 2kers may legitimately appeal to the Bible in their civic duties. Zrim argues that the Bible forbids civil disobedience while Jed questions whether a… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/02/the-bible-is-not-off-limits-but-only-settles-so-much/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two of Old Life&#8217;s regular voices, Zrim and Jed, are having an <a href="http://confessionalouthouse.wordpress.com/2012/01/26/westminster-on-bonhoeffer/#comment-12226">interesting discussion</a> &#8212; in response to a <a href="http://wscal.edu/blog/entry/bonhoeffer-and-assassination">post questioning</a> the political machinations of the hallowed Bonhoffer &#8212; about whether 2kers may legitimately appeal to the Bible in their civic duties.  Zrim argues that the Bible forbids civil disobedience while Jed questions whether a 2ker may employ the Bible in this way.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Rabbi Bret <a href="http://ironink.org/2012/02/neither-a-borrower-nor-a-lender-be-or-rabbi-bret-contra-darryl-gnostic-hart/">responds</a> to me that his case for Ron Paul and paleo-conservatism come directly from biblical teaching on the fifth and eighth commandments.</p>
<p>Several points of clarification seem to be in order.  First, 2kers do appeal to the Bible. They do so in their personal lives all the time.  They even appeal to the Bible &#8212; you know, &#8220;my kingdom is not of this world,&#8221; does not come from Aristotle &#8212; to argue for legitimacy of 2k.  Two-kingdom theology is thoroughly biblical (or at least tries to be) and its advocates don&#8217;t let differences between the kingdoms prevent them from seeing that &#8212; to borrow a line from the old E. F. Hutton commercials &#8212; when the Bible speaks, believers listen.  As I have repeatedly insisted in different forums, the eighth commandment compels me to question whether I should shop at Walmart or at Gelzer&#8217;s Hardware.  After Sam Walton is not my neighbor, the one whose welfare I am supposed to seek.  But Mr. Gelzer is.  The Bible gives some instruction about economics.  I should try to apply to my life.  I don&#8217;t see how that is inconsistent with 2k because it is not.</p>
<p>Second, this appeal to the Bible does not mean that I may require Rabbi Bret to shop locally or Jed to drink only the beers made by San Marcos breweries.  Individual believers need to respect the consciences and interpretations of other believers.  Some may eat meat offered to idols, and others won&#8217;t.  Both will appeal to the Bible.  But appealing to the Bible doesn&#8217;t settle whether believers will act in the same way about a host of matters.</p>
<p>Third, the critics of 2k &#8212; aside from uncharitably disregarding 2kers&#8217; appeal to Scripture &#8212; can&#8217;t seem to fathom the difference between the claims made by individuals about biblical teaching and those of church officers and assemblies.  For instance, because the Baylys&#8217; believe the Bible compels them to protest at abortion clinics, they believe that church assemblies must call all believers to similar forms of protest.  They even go a step farther and think that anyone who dissents from their application of Scripture disobeys the Bible.  (Wow!)  Meanwhile, folks like Rabbi Bret don&#8217;t seem to understand that his appeal to the fifth and eighth commandments for paleoconservatism leaves little room in the church for other perspectives, such as the Covenanters, libertarians, Democrats, or monarchists.  Yet, the Reformed creeds insist that church assemblies should address only matters that are spiritual and ecclesiastical.  In other words, when the church speaks as institutional church, she must have a biblical warrant.  And that explains why the creeds don&#8217;t address education, math, or economics.  The Bible doesn&#8217;t require God&#8217;s people to have a uniform method of delivering education, a base-ten system of math, or a commitment to free markets.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that the Bible does not solve the problems that critics of 2k think it does.  If you believe in Christian liberty, which is premised upon the idea that Christians have liberty in matters where Scripture is silent &#8212; from whether or not to meet for worship at 11:00 on Sundays to whether or not to drive an SUV &#8212; then appealing to the Bible will not yield the unity or uniformity in politics or culture that Bible thumpers tout. </p>
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		<title>Rabbi Bret Borrowing Capital from Those 2k Swiss Bank Accounts</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the one hand, I am touched that the good Rabbi would devote ten-plus paragraphs to refuting the <a href="http://oldlife.org/2012/01/can-epistemologically-self-conscious-calvinists-get-along/">a minor question</a> I raised about epistemological self-consciousness.  On the other hand, I am hurt that Bret <a href="http://ironink.org/2012/01/is-voting-for-ron-paul-a-pursuit-of-societal-salvation/">shows more charity</a> to Ron Paul than to me.  Despite the crusty and vinegary exterior, I am really a pussy cat in person, without claws &#8212; the effects perhaps of living with cats for more than two decades &#8212; and not to be missed I can cry with the best of them, being the son of a private first-class Marine who was a weeper.  I try to console myself that Bret is only opposed to 2k as a set of ideas; he does not dislike (all about) me.</p>
<p>Still, the tolerance that anti-2kers show to non-Reformed Protestants (e.g. Ron Paul) and even to non-Christian ideas (more below) is puzzling and suggests a level of personal antagonism that is unbecoming.  In the case of Ron Paul, Bret tries to justify his intention to vote for the libertarian Republican as consistent with Christian faith because this proposed vote has received flak from a theonomist whom he apparently follows on Facebook. Bret explains:</p>
<blockquote><p>I intend to vote for Rep. Ron Paul if I can I do acknowledge that there are issues he supports that I do not think are Christian. Paul’s recent vote supporting homosexuals in the military is not the vote a Christian man would have made. Also, Ron Paul’s fuzzy stand on illegal immigration is a head scratcher. I also would that Rep. Paul would clearly articulate that the Constitution as it currently stands outlaws Abortion, and because of that States should overturn laws on their books that are contrary to that Constitutional requirement. I also do not believe that Dr. Paul’s Libertarian instincts will work in a country that has been balkanized by both it’s legal immigration policy pursuit since 1965 and it’s benign neglect of illegal immigration. . . .</p>
<p>Our greatest need of the hour in order to restore biblical statecraft is for someone to slay the Leviathan State. This is the platform on which Dr. Paul is campaigning. Biblical statecraft will not be restored until the Leviathan state is slain. First things first. To suggest that any Christian who intends to vote for Ron Paul is abandoning biblical principles for voting and statecraft is like a Jew complaining that the person who stopped the rape of his wife was not circumcised. It is true that there are faults with Dr. Paul, but currently he is the gentleman who promises to help us with our most current and pressing problem. Mr. Ritchie just isn’t thinking correctly.</p></blockquote>
<p>First things first?  Does not the first table of the law come before the second table?  Does not doing what is right in God&#8217;s eyes take precedence over what may be beneficial to the survival of the United States?  In which case, could it be that Bret is letting his own political convictions dictate what comes first?  As I&#8217;ve said a guhzillion times, Covenanters would not construe first things this way. They refused to vote, run for office, or serve in the military because the first thing &#8212; Christ&#8217;s Lordship &#8212; was not part of the U.S. Constitution.  I disagree that the Constitution must include such an affirmation.  But I greatly admire the Covenanters&#8217; consistency and wish Rabbi Bret would be as hard nosed in the political realm as he is with (all about) me in the theological arena.</p>
<p>What seems to be operative here is that Rabbi Bret borrows selectively from 2k by using non-biblical standards for evaluating the United States&#8217; political order.  He says we must follow wisdom in the current election cycle.  Well, what happened to the Bible as the standard for all of life?  And just how do you get a license to practice such wisdom (when 2kers are the ones who issue them)?  </p>
<p>Additional evidence of the Rabbi&#8217;s appeal to wisdom and implicit use of 2k comes in a <a href="http://ironink.org/2012/01/thoughts-on-neo-conservatism-vis-a-vis-classical-conservatism/">good post</a> he wrote about the differences between &#8220;classical&#8221; conservatism and neo-conservatism.  I&#8217;ll paste here only one of the piece&#8217;s five points (though the entire post is worthwhile for those who don&#8217;t know the differences among conservatism):</p>
<blockquote><p>Neo-conservatives believe that America is responsible to expand American values and ideology at the point of a bayonet. This was the governing ideology of progressive Democrats like Woodrow Wilson who desired to make the world safe for Democracy. However, before the Wilsonian motto of making the world safe for Democracy (a motto largely taken up by the Bush II administration) Wilson understood the American instinct for a humble foreign policy by campaigning in 1916 with the slogan, “He kept us out of war.” Before American entry into W.W. II the classically conservative approach to involvement in international affairs was one of modesty, as seen in the previous mentioned Wilson approach to campaigning in 1916. Classical conservatism, as opposed to neo-conservatism embraced the dictum of John Quincy Adams who once noted that, “America is a well-wisher of liberty everywhere, but defender only of her own.”</p>
<p>However, today’s conservatism is internationally militantly adventurous. What is sold by those who have co-opted the title of “conservative,” is the exporting of American values but the dirty little secret is that the American values that are being exported in the name of Democracy is just a warmed over socialism combined with some form of Corporate consumerism.</p></blockquote>
<p>Good point, but where exactly is the justification for this from Scripture or the Lordship of Christ or the antithesis?  I&#8217;m betting that loads of Christian Reformed Church ministers and laity who invoke the antithesis every bit as much as the Rabbi does, would never countenance Bret&#8217;s understanding of U.S. foreign policy.  In which case, either the Bible speaks with forked tongue about a nation&#8217;s military involvement or all neo-Calvinists are dictating to special revelation what their &#8220;wise&#8221; observations of the created order and contemporary circumstances require.  Why then are 2kers guilty of doing something illegitimate if Rabbi Bret or liberals in the CRC do the very same thing?  </p>
<p>Which leads me back to the deep emotional wound mentioned at the outset.  In his response to my post on epistemological self-consciousness, Bret says that it all comes down to this:</p>
<blockquote><p>I mean that is what this boils down to isn’t it? Van Til repeatedly emphasized the necessity of epistemological self-consciousness while Darryl is suggesting that each man must do what is right in his own unique epistemological self consciousness. One epistemologically self-conscious Christian likes Kant, another epistemologically self conscious Christian likes Hegel. Vive la différence!</p></blockquote>
<p>This is an odd summary of the entire difference since at the beginning of the post Bret says that the notion of the Lordship of Christ was hardly a Dutch Reformed idea, and then he goes on to say that it all comes down to a point made (as he understands it) about the Lordship of Christ by a Dutch-American.  But aside from the intellectual hiccup, does Bret really not see that his own support for Ron Paul throws the antithesis to the wind.  Paul doesn&#8217;t have to be a Reformed Christian affirming the Lordship of Christ to gain Bret&#8217;s support.  Bret&#8217;s analysis of conservatism doesn&#8217;t need to follow the dictates of the antithesis in order for it to be wise.  And yet, if I or other 2kers don&#8217;t follow the antithesis when recognizing a common realm of activity for believers and unbelievers, or when finding truths by which to negotiate this common terrain other than from Scripture (only because the Bible is silent, for instance, on basements or how to remove water from them), we are relativists and antinomians.  (We don&#8217;t even get a little credit for putting the anti in antinomian.)  </p>
<p>Until the critics of 2k can possibly create a world in which the antithesis applies all the time, they will be indebted to 2k for borrowed capital.  The reason is that it is impossible to live in a mixed society if the sort of antithesis that will ultimately result in the separation of the sheep from the wolves is going to be the norm.  The antithesis requires not only withholding support from Ron Paul, but also opposition to a political order that would allow him on the ballot (not to mention that difficult matter of what to do with Mitt Romney&#8217;s Mormons or Rick Santorum&#8217;s Roman Catholics).  Bret believes that the &#8220;Escondido&#8221; theology will one day pass away like the Mercersburg Theology did.  I too believe it will, whenever God chooses to separate believers from unbelievers.  But until then, as long as we live with unbelievers, guys like Bret will need and use 2k theology.  I only wish he&#8217;d show a little gratitude and start to pay off the debt.  He is well behind in payments and snarky about it.  </p>
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		<title>Two-Kingdom Tuesday: How Can You Not Be 2K If You Are Spirituality of the Church?</title>
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		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Calvin makes it easy; you only have to get over the National Covenant, Kuyper, Bahnsen, and Wilson: My kingdom is not of this world. By these words he acknowledges that he is a king, but, so far as was necessary to prove his innocence, he clears himself of the calumny; for he declares, that there… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/04/two-kingdom-tuesday-how-can-you-not-be-2k-if-you-are-spirituality-of-the-church/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2010/06/2king.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2010/06/2king-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-594" /></a>Calvin makes it easy; you only have to get over the National Covenant, Kuyper, Bahnsen, and Wilson:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>My kingdom is not of this world.</em> By these words he acknowledges that he is a king, but, so far as was necessary to prove his innocence, he clears himself of the calumny; for he declares, that there is no disagreement between his kingdom and political government or order; as if he had said, “I am falsely accused, as if I had attempted to produce a disturbance, or to make a revolution in public affairs. I have preached about the kingdom of God; but that is spiritual, and, therefore, you have no right to suspect me of aspiring to kingly power.” This defense was made by Christ before Pilate, but the same doctrine is useful to believers to the end of the world; for if the kingdom of Christ were earthly, it would be frail and changeable, because the fashion of this world passeth away, (1 Corinthians 7:31;) but now, since it is pronounced to be heavenly, this assures us of its perpetuity. Thus, should it happen, that the whole world were overturned, provided that our consciences are always directed to the kingdom of Christ, they will, nevertheless, remain firm, not only amidst shakings and convulsions, but even amidst dreadful ruin and destruction. If we are cruelly treated by wicked men, still our salvation is secured by the kingdom of Christ, which is not subject to the caprice of men. In short, though there are innumerable storms by which the world is continually agitated, the kingdom of Christ, in which we ought to seek tranquillity, is separated from the world.</p>
<p>We are taught, also, what is the nature of this kingdom; for if it made us happy according to the flesh, and brought us riches, luxuries, and all that is desirable for the use of the present life, it would smell of the earth and of the world; but now, though our condition be apparently wretched, still our true happiness remains unimpaired. We learn from it, also, who they are that belong to this kingdom; those who, having been renewed by the Spirit of God, contemplate the heavenly life in holiness and righteousness. Yet it deserves our attention, likewise, that it is not said, that the kingdom of Christ is not in this world; for we know that it has its seat in our hearts, as also Christ says elsewhere, The kingdom of God is within you, (Luke 17:21.) But, strictly speaking, the kingdom of God, while it dwells in us, is a stranger to the world, because its condition is totally different. </p>
<p><em>My servants would strive.</em> He proves that he did not aim at an earthly kingdom, because no one moves, no one takes arms in his support; for if a private individual lay claim to royal authority, he must gain power by means of seditious men. Nothing of this kind is seen in Christ; and, therefore, it follows that he is not an earthly king.</p>
<p>But here a question arises, Is it not lawful to defend the kingdom of Christ by arms? For when Kings and Princes are commanded to kiss the Son of God, (Psalm 2:10-12) not only are they enjoined to submit to his authority in their private capacity, but also to employ all the power that they possess, in defending the Church and maintaining godliness. </p>
<p>I answer, first, they who draw this conclusion, that the doctrine of the Gospel and the pure worship of God ought not to be defended by arms, are unskillful and ignorant reasoners; for Christ argues only from the facts of the case in hand, how frivolous were the calumnies which the Jews had brought against him. </p>
<p>Secondly, though godly kings defend the kingdom of Christ by the sword, still it is done in a different manner from that in which worldly kingdoms are wont to be defended; for the kingdom of Christ, being spiritual, must be founded on the doctrine and power of the Spirit. In the same manner, too, its edification is promoted; for neither the laws and edicts of men, nor the punishments inflicted by them, enter into the consciences. Yet this does not hinder princes from accidentally defending the kingdom of Christ; partly, by appointing external discipline, and partly, by lending their protection to the Church against wicked men. It results, however, from the depravity of the world, that the kingdom of Christ is strengthened more by the blood of the martyrs than by the aid of arms. (Calvin&#8217;s Commentary on John 18)</p></blockquote>
<p>Important to notice is Calvin’s otherworldliness.  The kingdom is not in this world, but it is in believers’ hearts.  And it comes not through laws or enforcement of legislation, or clever policy, but by the word and Spirit.  If magistrates assist the kingdom of Christ it not because of law or enforcement because Christ’s kingdom is spiritual, and therefore different from the rule of kings.  </p>
<p>This would also mean that all those people who cite Calvin and his godly regime in Geneva, like the Baylys, Dr. Kloosterman, and Rabbi Bret are missing the point.  Calvin even calls arguments like their “ignorant and unskillful.  God’s kingdom is not earthly.  And efforts to make this world heavenly are just one more example of immanentizing the eschaton.</p>
<p>I would have thought that differentiation of Christ’s rule from earthly regimes would appeal to the Vossian contingent.  I wonder when will they ever come over to the 2k side.  2kers won’t bite, at least not physically.</p>
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		<title>Kuyperians and Theonomists, Say &#8220;Hello&#8221; to the Old School Presbyterians</title>
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		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I continue to be amazed by the decibels of hostility and venom heaped upon 2k. From bloggers like Nelson Kloosterman, James K. A. Smith, David Koyzis, Doug Wilson, Steven Wedgeworth, Rabbi Bret and the Bayly Bros., to your average and pseudonymous commenters at various Reformed blogs, many Reformed Protestants and evangelicals believe that 2k theology… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/02/kuyperians-and-theonomists-say-hello-to-the-old-school-presbyterians/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/02/dabney.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/02/dabney.jpg" alt="" width="129" height="127" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-961" /></a>I continue to be amazed by the decibels of hostility and venom heaped upon 2k.  From bloggers like <a href="http://auxesis.net/kloosterman/two_kingdoms_review.php"> Nelson Kloosterman</a>, <a href="http://forsclavigera.blogspot.com/2010/12/whence-whither-american-presbyterianism.html">James K. A. Smith</a>, <a href="http://www.cardus.ca/comment/article/2020/">David Koyzis</a>, <a href="http://www.canonwired.com/ask-doug/2k-theology/">Doug Wilson</a>, <a href="http://wedgewords.wordpress.com/2010/06/21/two-kingdoms-and-neo-calvinism-of-a-different-sort/">Steven Wedgeworth</a>, <a href="http://ironink.org/index.php?blog=1&amp;title=calvin_on_the_abiding_validity_of_the_ge&amp;more=1&amp;c=1&amp;tb=1&amp;pb=1#trackbacks">Rabbi Bret</a> and the <a href="http://www.baylyblog.com/2011/02/tim-wthanks-to-many-joel-northrup-wrestles-for-linn-mar-high-school-in-marion-iowa-wrestlings-big-in-iowa-something-li.html#more">Bayly Bros</a>., to your <a href="http://greenbaggins.wordpress.com/2011/02/05/new-new-warrior-children-thread/#comment-86204">average and pseudonymous commenters</a> at various Reformed blogs, many Reformed Protestants and evangelicals believe that 2k theology is either foreign because it is Lutheran or unbiblical because it exempts Godâ€™s law from part of life and nurtures dualism.  </p>
<p>But for anyone who has spent time with Old School Presbyterians and Old Princeton Seminary, 2k feels comfortable like an old shoe, and thatâ€™s because one of the Old Schoolâ€™s hallmark doctrines, the spirituality of the church, is basically the Presbyterian version of 2k.  </p>
<p>David Coffin, pastor of New Hope Church (PCA) in Fairfax, Virginia, recently preached on the doctrine of the spirituality of the church.  A link to the first sermon is <a href="http://newhopefairfax.org/resources/sermons-to-hear">here</a>.  It is well worth hearing and filled with numerous quotations that neo-Calvinists and their theological cousins, theonomists, Federal Visionaries, and Erastians, have yet to fit into their schemes of denying dualism and making Christ Lord of every square inch, like the following from Calvin, who is commenting on Christâ€™s response to a request to settle a property dispute between two brothers (Luke 12:13): </p>
<blockquote><p>Our Lord, when requested to undertake the office of dividing an inheritance, refuses to do so. Now as this tended to promote brotherly harmony, and as Christâ€™s office was, not only to reconcile men to God, but to bring them into a state of agreement with one another, what hindered him from settling the dispute between the two brothers? There appear to have been chiefly two reasons why he declined the office of a judge. First, as the Jews imagined that the Messiah would have an earthly kingdom, he wished to guard against doing any thing that might countenance this error. If they had seen him divide inheritances, the report of that proceeding would immediately have been circulated. Many would have been led to expect a carnal redemption, which they too ardently desired; and wicked men would have loudly declared, that he was effecting a revolution in the state, and overturning the Roman Empire. Nothing could be more appropriate, therefore, than this reply, by which all would be informed, that the kingdom of Christ is spiritual. . . . </p>
<p>Secondly, our Lord intended to draw a distinction between the political kingdoms of this world and the government of his Church; for he had been appointed by the Father to be a Teacher, who should â€œdivide asunder, by the sword of the word, the thoughts and feelings, and penetrate into the souls of men, (Hebrews 4:12,)â€ but was not a magistrate to divide inheritances. This condemns the robbery of the Pope and his clergy, who, while they give themselves out to be pastors of the Church, have dared to usurp an earthly and secular jurisdiction, which is inconsistent with their office; for what is in itself lawful may be improper in certain persons. . . . </p></blockquote>
<p>P.S. If Dutch-American Calvinists want to write off nineteenth-century American Presbyterians, fine.  But donâ€™t be surprised if those Presbyterians descendants remind you that it was the Presbyterians at Princeton that domesticated Kuyper and Vos for American Protestants.  Without Benjamin Warfield, Abraham Kuyper and Geerhardus Vos would still be available only in Dutch.</p>
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		<title>Hide the Women and Children!</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I suspected, the review that Cornel Venema wrote of The Law is Not of Faith is not nearly as damning as various and sundry critics of Westminster California have let on. I figured that if Venema had written anything really juicy â€“ like this is view that needs to be purged from our churches… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2011/01/hide-the-women-and-children/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/01/Arkin-as-Russian.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2011/01/Arkin-as-Russian-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-913" /></a>As I suspected, the review that Cornel Venema wrote of <em>The Law is Not of Faith</em> is not nearly as damning as various and sundry critics of Westminster California have let on.  I figured that if Venema had written anything really juicy â€“ like this is view that needs to be purged from our churches â€“ Rabbi Bret would have quoted it by now, especially that â€“ ahem â€“ his Advent and Christmas duties are well behind.  </p>
<p>Although Venema criticizes the book, its arguments and authors, he actually writes sensibly and in a guarded manner (unlike some on his faculty):</p>
<p>Here are some examples, all from the conclusion:</p>
<blockquote><p>Viewed against the background of the history of Reformed covenant theology, the particular question of the distinctiveness of the Mosaic administration posed by the authors . . . is a legitimate one, and one with a long pedigree in the history of Reformed theology.  That some contemporary Reformed theologians find the question itself to be puzzling or problematic does reflect, as the editors . . . observe, a loss of historical awareness and appreciation for the complex history of Reformed reflection on the covenant.</p></blockquote>
<p>So some of the reactions to the book could actually be ignorant.</p>
<blockquote><p>Though my review . . . offers a number of criticisms of the authorâ€™s arguments, I fully concur with the authorsâ€™ aim to uphold and teach the doctrine of justification by grace alone through faith alone upon the basis of the righteousness of Christ alone.  As I put it in my description . . . on the book jacket, the â€œauthors ably refute recent attacks on the classic Reformed understanding of the grace of free justification on the basis of the entire obedience and sacrifice of Christ alone.â€</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, thatâ€™s right, Venema wrote a blurb for the book that he supposedly found devastating in review.</p>
<p>Rabbi Bret and others seemed to miss that Venema actually did recommend this book for publication and to readers to read â€“ thatâ€™s why the publisher printed this on the back cover by the president of Mid-America:</p>
<blockquote><p>This provocative volume makes a historical and biblical-theological case for understaning the Mosaic administration in the covenant of grace as in some sense a â€œrepublishedâ€ covenant of works, which teaches that only perfect obedience to the requiremetns of the law is sufficient to secure the covenant promise of life in communion with God.  The authors ably refute recent attacks upon the classic Reformed understanidng of the grace of free justification on the basis of the enire obedience and sacrifice of Christ alone.  Though I am not persuaded by every forumulation here, this volume deserves the careful attention of anyone who prizes the bilical teaching that the believerâ€™s justification rests not on any works of his own, but solely on the full obedience of Christ. </p></blockquote>
<p>What is curious is that Venema could endorse a volume that he would later critique for over seventy pages.  The ethics of endorsing and reviewing hold that once you add your name to a bookâ€™s set of endorsers, you refrain from reviewing the book â€“ since your review would not be credible as representing an impartial judgment (oh, that&#8217;s right, no neutrality).  What we have here is a case of recommendation followed by critique, which is one of the odder turns in the publishing world.  The endorsement is also a fact that critics of Westminster California have selectively left unnoticed.  </p>
<p>Venema also adds in the conclusion of his review:</p>
<blockquote><p>. . . while I recognize the manifest diversity of opinion on the question of the distinctive nature of the Mosaic economy in the history of Reformed theology, my primary objection to the arguments of the authors . . . is to what I have termed an â€œaccommodatedâ€ reading of the sources.</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words, this is a debate among historical theologians.  On the matter of correctly exegeting Paul, Venema comes to no conclusion.  Last I knew, a ministerâ€™s historical theology was not the basis for his standing in the church.</p>
<blockquote><p>. . . in my critical assessment of the republication thesis . . ., I have intimated that the historic Reformed distinction between the â€œthree usesâ€ of the law provides a better answer to the complexx question that this thesis aims to resolve.</p></blockquote>
<p>So we are in the realm of a better explanation of the Mosaic administration, not a heterodox point of doctrine.</p>
<blockquote><p>The implication of the republication thesis, as is stated by some of the authors, seems to undermine the positive function of the law within the administration of the covenant of grace.</p></blockquote>
<p>â€œSeems to undermineâ€ is a long way from <a href="http://ironink.org/index.php?blog=1&amp;title=mid_america_seminary_joins_northwest_sem&amp;more=1&amp;c=1&amp;tb=1&amp;pb=1#trackbacks">this</a> by Rabbi Brett:</p>
<blockquote><p>Dr. Venemaâ€™s work in the Mid-America Journal of Theology is one more effort to pull back the curtain to expose a committee of Ozzes who are working overtime to infect the whole Reformed Church with their virus theology.</p></blockquote>
<p>But when you are prone to seeing the world populated not by people who study and teach but either by angels or demons, Communists or the liberated, you think that evaluation of an argument is the same thing as drawing up charges.  </p>
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		<title>Good and Necessary Consequence?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Paleo Calvinism]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[J. Gresham Machen]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike Horton often laments that the evangelicals who become excited about confessional Protestant theology often do not realize that the new teachings and practices they adopt are at odds with older parts of their born-again devotion and conviction. Mike likens this to a notebook in which the student puts in new pages but neglects to… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2010/11/good-and-necessary-consequence/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2010/11/3-ring-binder.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2010/11/3-ring-binder-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-838" /></a>Mike Horton often laments that the evangelicals who become excited about confessional Protestant theology often do not realize that the new teachings and practices they adopt are at odds with older parts of their born-again devotion and conviction.  Mike likens this to a notebook in which the student puts in new pages but neglects to take out the old and erroneous pages.  In which case, someone might insert a page for worship that is formal, liturgical, and reverent, and fail to remove the page that says itâ€™s okay to go home after the service and watch professional football.</p>
<p>To Rabbi Bretâ€™s credit, his intellect is keen enough to see the tensions among pages in his notebook.  He <a href="http://ironink.org/index.php?blog=1&amp;title=the_problem_with_specialism&amp;more=1&amp;c=1&amp;tb=1&amp;pb=1#trackbacks">recently posted</a> his disagreement with J. Gresham Machen on the pastorâ€™s responsibility to master and minister the Word of God.  In his convocation address for Westminster Seminary, Machen asserted:</p>
<blockquote><p>We are living in an age of specialization. There are specialists on eyes and specialists on noses, and throats, and stomachs, and feet, and skin; there are specialists on teethâ€”one set of specialists on putting teeth in, and another set of specialists on pulling teeth outâ€”there are specialists on Shakespeare and specialists on electric wires; there are specialists on Plato and specialists on pipes. Amid all these specialties, we at Westminster Seminary have a specialty which we think, in comparison with these others, is not so very small. Our specialty is found in the Word of God. Specialists in the Bibleâ€”that is what Westminster Seminary will endeavor to produce.
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<p>But Bret thinks this is too narrow a reading of Scripture or the work of ministers.  </p>
<blockquote><p>The idea that being alone a specialist on what is in the Bible is enough to successfully minister in our current culture is just not true unless included in that idea of Bible specialty is also the ability to take whatâ€™s in the Bible and apply it every area of life.</p>
<p>For example, whatâ€™s in the Bible will never tell us about existentialism or post-modernism, or communism but can any minister really be of any value if they have no understanding of how these philosophies are impacting the people he is seeking to minister Godâ€™s word from?</p>
<p>If ministers are to specialize what ministers need to specialize in is integration, or inter-disciplinary studies. Is a minister prepared if he specializes on what is in the Bible, while along the way, discovering that Jesus Christ is Lord of all, if the minister doesnâ€™t know what that might begin to look like in family life, the law realm, or the educational realm?</p>
<p>Ministers simply have to understand that Christian theology is the integrating point that gives unity to all the differing specialties. The Bible is that integrating point and because it is that integrating point what the Bible has to say between its covers, covers all areas that arenâ€™t explicitly between its covers. If we do not believe that Godâ€™s word is the integrating point that gives unity to diversity then the world we live in will not be a Universe but a Multi-verse where all the particulars (specialties) can find no relation to one another.</p></blockquote>
<p>So again, to Bretâ€™s credit, he sees that he needs to take the Machen page out of his notebook to accommodate his biblicism and world-view pages.  We appreciate the clarity and honesty.  </p>
<p>What deserves attention, though, is that the Bible nowhere says that the ministry needs to be the integration point for all specialties.  Somehow I missed that in Paulâ€™s instructions to Timothy on ministering the word (2 Tim 3:14-4:4).  Paul is fairly clear about ministering the word and the sufficiency of Scripture.  The apostle himself knew a thing or two about Greek philosophy but he doesnâ€™t tell Timothy to master Epicureanism or Stoicism â€“ as if your average first-century or twenty-first Christian is trying to implement the â€˜ismâ€™s of the mind in his everyday activities; even the mental people â€“ academics or pastors â€“ are never so self-conscious.  </p>
<p>Also questionable is Bretâ€™s belief that someone could actual be the master of all specialties in order to integrate them.  Given Bretâ€™s own reading of economics, politics, or history, Iâ€™d say he might spend a little more time with the experts before thinking that he is the master of all intellectual insights and capable of definitive judgments.  Ironically, it seems that Bret follows Machen in thinking he is an expert on the Bible and because the Bible speaks to all of life, the good Rabbi is an expert on all of life.  Again I say, huh?</p>
<p>Bretâ€™s comments are another important reason for 2k â€“ which is to reign in excessive interpretations of the religious meanings of culture, not to mention the pride that generally comes with such assessments.</p>
<p>But to Bretâ€™s credit, he does sense that he needs to give up Machen to retain Rushdoony.  We continue to be amazed and amused that he keeps the CRC page.  </p>
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		<title>Two-Kingdom Tuesday: Going Mainstream?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D. G. Hart</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Terry Eastland, the publisher of The Weekly Standard, recently wrote a review essay of James Davison Hunter&#8217;s, To Change the World, and David VanDrunen&#8217;s, Natural Law and the Two Kingdoms. After reading these books, Eastland is scratching his head that critics of transformationalism like Hunter are so dismissive of 2k theology. He writes: Oddly, To… <a href="http://oldlife.org/2010/11/two-kingdom-tuesday-going-mainstream/">Read More&#8594;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2010/11/WStandard.16-10.Nov22.Cover_.jpg"><img src="http://oldlife.org/files/2010/11/WStandard.16-10.Nov22.Cover_.jpg" alt="" width="145" height="190" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-820" /></a>Terry Eastland, the publisher of <em>The Weekly Standard</em>, recently wrote a review essay of James Davison Hunter&#8217;s, To Change the World, and David VanDrunen&#8217;s, Natural Law and the Two Kingdoms.  After reading these books, Eastland is scratching his head that critics of transformationalism like Hunter are so dismissive of 2k theology.  He <a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/cities-god?page=1">writes</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Oddly, To Change the World has little to say about two kingdoms, notwithstanding its rooting in a millennium and a half of Christian reflection. And what the book does say is a caricature: According to Hunter, the doctrine leads its adherents â€œto increasingly withdraw into their own communities with less and less interest in any engagement with the larger world.â€ Hunter fails to consider such evidence as VanDrunen has weighed and which supports the proposition that two-kingdoms doctrine encompasses the idea of promoting the welfare of society, or as Hunter himself might say, its â€œoverall flourishing.â€  </p>
<p>That James Davison Hunter has no affinity for two kingdoms would seem surprising, since it is a doctrine that offers no support to the world changers he challenges at every turn. On the other hand, there is an ambiguity in To Change the World that makes one wonder whether Hunterâ€™s dismissal of two kingdoms is a product of his sympathy for, yes, world changing. The ambiguity arises in his discussion of faithful presence, and it concerns the critical issue of redemption. For while Hunter emphasizes that â€œculture-making .â€‰â€‰.â€‰â€‰. is not, strictly speaking, redemptive or salvific in character,â€ and that â€œworld buildingâ€ is not to be confused with â€œbuilding the Kingdom of God,â€ he also says that the church should â€œoffer an alternative vision and directionâ€ for prevailing cultural institutions and seek â€œto retrieve the good to which modern institutions and ideas implicitly or explicitly aspire.â€ Putting aside whether the church is even capable of offering such vision and direction, or of retrieving such goods, it would seem without authority to do soâ€”unless it is now being charged with (to borrow a phrase) â€œredeeming the culture.â€</p>
<p>Such is the allure of transformationalism that one of its most vigorous critics seems unable to abandon it. Even so, Hunterâ€™s book is not without its redeeming features, notably a critique of the modern world that strikingly illumines the challenges that â€œdifferenceâ€ and â€œdissolutionâ€ pose for Christian engagement. Difference, meaning pluralism, â€œcreates social conditions in which God is no longer an inevitability,â€ a development that renders â€œGod-talkâ€ with â€œlittle or no resonanceâ€ outside the church. Dissolution, meaning â€œthe deconstruction of the most basic assumptions about reality,â€ makes it more difficult to â€œimagine that there is a spiritual reality more real than the material world we live in.â€</p>
<p>Likewise, Hunterâ€™s theology of faithful presence takes inspiration from the sensible teaching of that Epistle to Diognetus, and before that, from the wise counsel of Jeremiah. In his letter to the exiles living in the very different culture of Babylonâ€”its king a pagan gentileâ€”the prophet exhorted them to â€œseek [its] welfareâ€ on the ground that â€œin its welfare you will find your welfare.â€</p>
<p>David VanDrunenâ€™s study is worth commending on account of the achievement it represents, for the two kingdoms doctrine, with its fascinating lineage, has not had the historian of theological acumen it deserved until now. </p></blockquote>
<p>Like I wondered last week, all this favorable attention to 2k is scary.  If it becomes too popular, it will surely lose its saltiness.  Then again, we always have the Baylys, Kloostermans, and Brets of the world to keep us sinful.  </p>
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