I wish so, but I don’t see one.
Also, if a connection between the Baylys and the Gospel Coalition existed, I’d like to find it. But I can’t. Old Life is a responsible blog, after all.
Though there is a Tim Keller reference here that is not of my doing (mmmmmmm TKNY).
The Baylys have continued their hysteria on matters sexual with a post about a New York Times article on toys and the way they reinforce differences between boys and girls.
Girl toys are responsible for gender apartheid. So says the New York Times. With its newspaper of record such a nag, could anyone really be surprised that Manhattan’s most marketable church is pervasively androgynous?
Isn’t this a little like shooting fish in a barrel, sort of like the New York Times going after Pat Robertson to perform a dig at Christianity? Do any of their parishioners in Toledo or Bloomington actually care what the New York Times says? And do ministers of the gospel really want to pick Barbie dolls as a battle for the church militant?
Still you can’t help but love the reference to Keller’s Redeemer Church. As if Keller alone is responsible for gender confusion in the PCA, as if the residents of Toledo and Bloomington have thoroughly worked out a theology of sexual identity.
And that raises a question the Brothers Bayly seldom if ever consider: if Keller is to blame for (and a symptom of — it is a sloppy two-way analytic street) what’s wrong with New York City and cosmopolitan culture in the U.S., are the Baylys to blame for what’s wrong with the American heartland (because they certainly are not a symptom)? Can their cities really withstand the standards they set for Keller’s Manhattan? Can any? (By the way, could we please have a side of the gospel with that large plate of law?)
Update: I believe I have discovered the tie between Frame and Tim and David Bayly.
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I can’t think of a way right now to talk about John Frame now either but I do want to ask if Tim Keller was preaching law or gospel when he said to mayor Bloomberg and others assembled: “We now know what the answer isn’t. It can’t be that God doesn’t love us.”
To become a sanctioned sacrament-dispenser, Keller has signed on to the Westminster Confession which explains in its chapter 3, first paragraph: “God from all eternity did by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will freely ordain whatever comes to pass.” This is not “allowing”. Paragraph three of the confession chapter 3: “By the decree of God, for the manifestation of His glory, some men and angels are predestined unto everlasting life and others foreordained to everlasting death.”
For the manifestation of His glory—that is how the Bible itself explains it. Romans 9:13 declares “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” Romans 9:22 tells the truth: “God, desiring to show His wrath and to make known His power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of His glory for vessels of mercy, which He has prepared beforehand for glory.”
When Bible readers see a “loves us”, they need to ask the question Tonto asked the Lone Ranger: “who’s the us?” Who’s the church? When’s the church? Is it the church happening when Tim Keller is preaching to the mayor and other Americans and assures them that “God loves us”?
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Other books keep appearing on top of the stack which has John J. Hughes, ed., Speaking the Truth in Love: The Theology of John M. Frame (Phillipsburg, NJ: P&R Publishing, 2009), 431-459. ISBN 978-1-59638-164-3.
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“By the way, could we please have a side of the gospel with that large plate of law?” – I always liked the sides better at Thanksgiving. Turkey is Law, stuffing is Gospel.
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I don’t blame ClearNote Non-Denom for Westboro Baptist, but if RNYC gives cover to gender confusion may I say that ClearNote gives cover to homophobia?
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The Baylys will not like this, but, I remember that as a boy I had a little iron and ironing board. I can actually remember “ironing” though I felt awful having both chickenpox and the flu at the same time. But then I had a father who could both iron and cook. I still do a lot of cooking. But I do not iron. I am no good at it, so I guess my play with a girl toy did not help much practically. Perhaps, I was too much a “real boy.” If I cannot take a shirt to the cleaners or get the girl in my family to do the ironing, I wear it as is. But, of course, I would not go to Redeemer in un-ironed clothes, unless maybe if I were playing jazz’
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McMark, all the more a reason to wonder why P&R did not publish Escondido Theology.
BTW, Keller’s ties to Presbyterianism are loose.
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Zrim, don’t you know that the Baylys’ fears are godly? Yours are girly.
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Bill, maybe we need more Proverbs 31 men — guys who hang out at the city gate, letting the little ladies do everything.
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For some reason this post is putting me in a New York Frame of mind…
(cue the music, BJ)
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Merely a side dish, Darryl? I would argue that often a heaping plate of pure gospel with all the trimmings may be the best food for sinners since the surpassing kindness of God leads us to repentance. Besides, it’s glorious fun to drive the legalists nuts and get called antinomians! 😉
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Bill, my mother taught me to iron like a man, and I can bring home the bacon and fry it up in a pan. Do they make “Enjoli!” for men?
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Enjoili? Nah… Noxema’s a heckuva lot more fun, Zrim:
You’re generation really got ripped off by the politically correct cretins… I’d sue if I were you. 😉
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That guy in the Noxema commercial kind of looks like Darryl Hart.
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But, Lily, at the risk of being called “unfaithful” by the Baylys, litigiousness is so neo-ish.
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John Y., nah, I shave from the bottom up, against the grain, just like I learned while watching Barcelona.
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Zrim – too funny – fawning in hopes of the ever elusive Bayly favor? Litigious? Aye, laddie… thou wouldst imperil thyself inna slippin’ fram thy stand. Silliness aside – a happy new year to you and yours, and all Old Life denizens!
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Darryl,
I thought the Barcelona was in reference to the Woody Allen movie and I was expecting a shaving instruction in the trailer when I saw that it was not. So, I am still curious as to how they shaved in the movie. I guess I am going to have to rent it and see. Is the movie worth watching?
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John Y. All of Stillman’s movies are worth seeing, Metropolitan, Barcelona, and Last Days of Disco. The question of shaving has to do with whether or not to teach young boys to shave against the grain, especially with a multi-blade razor.
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There’s no point to shaving unless you go against the grain. But what gives with these multi-blades?
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You mean like the Mach 20?
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Zrim sez: “..There’s no point to shaving unless you go against the grain. But what gives with these multi-blades?…”
It’s so they can sell them for more money – a kind of reverse of the old business tactic of JND’s. You, know the one where they gradually reduce the size of the candy bar, but continue to charge the same amount for so you won’t notice the difference. Except in this case they keep adding more blades (up to four or five now?) and charge a fortune for them, then gradually pull the older styles off the shelves so you have no choice but to buy them. It’s what caused me to change to an electric job.
Say, maybe if Ocam was still around we wouldn’t have this problem? 😉
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