. . . it would be valuable to articulate anew the transforming love and mercy of God, which does not stop at forgiving past guilt but transforms the person from within, so that he or she may live in freedom from vice and sin. That God’s grace not only forgives but heals and elevates its recipient is a classic mark of [Christian] teaching. . . . This good news about grace and mercy is a dimension of the full truth about marriage. When the Gospel is proclaimed with love and hope, its truth has the power to bring the hearer to encounter Jesus himself, and thus to be changed by his grace. The truth that Christ teaches—including the truth about human sexuality—liberates the sinner and provides, by grace, a way out, a path of hope.
I thought TKNY, but was wrong. There is a Keller on the list of authors though.
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and thus to be changed
i assume that means “for the better”
how much is enough?
could always be some more better
old Adam was not supposed to change
Adam did change
old Adam did not keep what Adam had
Galatians 2: 21 for if righteousness were through (our keeping) the law, then Christ died for no purpose
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Wait, I was supposed to say Rick, Harry, and Mark, right?
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Chortles,
Good guess! Also, I replied to you on “Tim Asks, I Respond” I value your thoughts on the audio link there…..
Dr. Hart,
I give up!
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Semps, I’ll listen to that tomorrow.
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Chortles, at your convenience ~ thanks
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One of the called to communion gang- Brian, or Nick, or Susan, or Jason.
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I just the quote again and almost regurgitated- I have an extremely limited capacity to read the comment sections of the Catholic directed posts at oldlife.
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Here’s the source.
I thought it echoed the Obedience Boys — you know, the gospel is more than forgiveness; it also transforms, which is what Roman Catholics say.
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A lot of people seem to think that our “sanctification” is the thing which satisfies the requirement of the law in Romans 8:4. I understand that they think “sanctification” means “gradual transformation” (in the right direction), and I also understand that they think they are more “sanctified” now than they used to be.
What I don’t understand is how they can agree that they are not “as sanctified” yet as they could be and at the same time see their transformation as some part of that which fulfills the requirement of the law. The law requires death. If death in Christ’s death is not sufficient, what could ever be enough to satisfy God’s law?
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Mike Horton—“I am suggesting that we view all the items in the ordo salutis as constituting one train, running on the same track, with justification as the engine that pulls adoption, new birth, and glorification with it….This means that we never leave the forensic domain even when we are addressing other topics in the ordo besides justification proper.” The Christian Faith, 2011, p 708
Scott Clark—“by virtue of legal union with Christ our federal head and substitute, his obedience is credited to believers. This legal union is distinction (not separate) from that union which increases (ie, that renovates” —-“do this and live” in Covenant, Justification and Pastoral Ministry, p 202
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