His latest post for the Co-Allies suggests he may:
The earliest Christians were widely ridiculed, especially by cultural elites, were excluded from circles of influence and business, and were often persecuted and put to death. Hurtado says Roman authorities were uniquely hostile to them, compared to other religious groups. . . .
The earliest church was seen as too exclusive and a threat to the social order because it would not honor all deities; today Christians are again being seen exclusive and a threat to the social order because we will not honor all identities.
Yet the early church thrived in that situation. Why?
One reason was that Christians were ridiculed as too exclusive and different. And yet many were drawn to Christianity because it was different. If a religion isn’t different from the surrounding culture—if it doesn’t critique and offer an alternative to it—it dies because it’s seen as unnecessary. . . .
The early church surely looked like it was on the “wrong side of history,” but instead it changed history with a dogged adherence to the biblical gospel. That should be our aspiration as well.
When you read those estimates of the early church, do you think more of the PCA or the OPC?
By the way, Keller leaves out one of the biggest factors in the early church’s “success”: the conversion of the emperor. In 300 roughly 10 percent of the empire’s population was Christian. By 350 that number rose to 55 percent.
Now all Pastor Keller needs to do is convert his fellow New Yorker, Mr. Trump. But I’m not sure how appealing a religion ridiculed by cultural elites and that is excluded from circles of influence and business will be. I am not even sure Pastor Keller’s experience proves that kind of Christianity “works.”
Whether being excluded/marginalized from society has merit depends on why one is excluded/marginalized. That is because too many times, some of us Christians assume that our own exclusion/marginalization is a badge of honor.
When I talk to some of my nonconservative friends, the reasons they have for not having a favorable view of Christianity do not indicate that we have brought honor to the Gospel. Our insularity, out tolerance of sins on which the status quo relies, and our call for having society to marginalize different groups of people bring dishonor to the Gospel as well as cut us of from sharing the Gospel with them. Here, the OPC has excelled where it shouldn’t. But the PCA has it problems too especially in the areas of compromise and accommodation to societal norms.
One simply has to look at the details to see what sins and failures practiced by either the OPC or the PCA should we avoid.
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Not sure about what to make of this article (whether to read it as political allegory or Presbyterian in-fighting or purely as sarcasm), yet being a member within the PC-USA, and one of the last remnants of “Conservative” in my congregation, I can assure you that if Pastor Keller isn’t welcome in the OPC, he’d be more than welcome to set up shop in my corner of the church any time.
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Mr. Snerd (hee hee), Pastor Keller is welcome even though he blows hot on being in the Big Apple and then hot on being marginal? Don’t you see a contradiction?
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Tim Keller says that Christianity changed history. I didn’t realize that you could do that. Does this mean we can un-kill all the millions of people murdered in the twentieth century by various governments? Can we un-abort all the children slaughtered since Roe. v Wade? Anyone that uses the phrase “change history” should be smacked in the face.
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Bryan, if Christianity changed history and you’re a Christian, that makes you a Yankees’ fan. (Hey, wait a minute. Doesn’t Keller live in NYC? Shazzam!)
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The JWs are also marginalized. That doesn’t mean that they’re necessarily more orthodox.
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evanBobby, come on. Get over the Keller man crush. Who is he talking about being marginalized? Heck, reporters for the NEW YORK FRIGGIN’ TIMES!!!!!! interview him.
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“The early church surely looked like it was on the “wrong side of history,” but instead it changed history with a dogged adherence to the biblical gospel. That should be our aspiration as well.”
BUT,
“We’re doing this for our city. Our longing is to see New York—and everyone in it—flourish. We believe the best way to serve the city is to embody the gospel in every neighborhood. The gospel doesn’t just change individual lives; it advances the common good. The increase in philanthropy, mercy, justice, racial reconciliation, integrity, and hope that occurs when more and more people live out the gospel is good for all of society, not just the body of Christ…. Through Redeemer and other new churches, that number has risen to 5%. With that acceleration, we believe we are at a critical inflection point in the movement of the gospel in our city where that number could rise to 15% over the next decade. We believe that might amount to a tipping point that changes more than individual lives but the long-term life of our city.” http://rise.redeemer.com/faq/
Keller’s early-church aspirations don’t seem to line up with his fundraising campaign.
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mboss, ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding! But like with the mainstream media, if you’re perceived as smart and minister to the intelligentsia, don’t worry about details.
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Rarely do great changes in culture come from a strategy, as Keller assumes above. I doubt the inventor of air conditioning planned for the results http://www.salon.com/2014/08/16/how_air_conditioning_remade_modern_america/
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I wonder how the pro-city and ancient-faith sides of Keller parse Rowan Williams:
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Scott Clark thinks the early church disproves transformationalism. Does Pastor Keller?
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Why would the OPC have a Marxist, anti-white racist, Anti-American snake in their church? Why would Keller, who’s done quite a bit of damage to the PCA already be allowed in? Is the OPC just a pathetic as the PCA?
http://www.trinityfoundation.org/journal.php?id=293
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Dee, why are you picking on Curt?
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